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Post by confuded92 on Dec 13, 2006 19:51:23 GMT -5
I'am wondering... How strong could a shield get? Could it get to the point where you could block the wind? Or even bulets ?!
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Post by TC on Dec 13, 2006 20:00:45 GMT -5
I've heard that Rainsong was able to put shields on her car to cushion the impact of an accident. That's about the strongest physical effects of shields that I've heard. However, psionically, we don't have a way of measuring psi, in which case we cannot measure its strength. If I were to say my shield could block a really strong hack, that would mean nothing because the strength of each thing is relative to my perception of what is strong and weak. Theoretically, if someone can attack you with anything, you should be able to block anything. That's considering the fact that you know exactly how to counteract that specific attack or a ping or something.
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Post by The Devil's Advocate on Dec 14, 2006 14:45:48 GMT -5
That kind of 'shield' is called a force bubble, it is more an applied Telekinesis construct than a classic shield. It is a different set of skills to actually make one. I have very, very strong shields, currently I couldn't make a force bubble to save my life.
My criteria for strong are as follows: Can block the majority of in input in my entire passive range (which is painfully extensive.) Can handle most of finals and dead week (30,000 college students in one location stressing out, exhausting themselves and doing other highly emotional things that are likely to cause headaches in an empath.) Can handle sustained, intense attack from a wide variety of hostiles, multiple hostiles, and on multiple levels.
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Post by confuded92 on Dec 14, 2006 18:02:23 GMT -5
Wow DA! Nice shields . Just a little question: Vi stavete zashitu tolko na emocii (emotions) ili na hack and unwanted pinging toze? (just curious) Yea i ment a TK kind of shield (i think). Is it possible to rename thw topic of the thread? Ok, is there a difference of making a force buble and a buble shield? If there is does anyone knows how to make one? He he, I want to see somebody throwing a snowball at you and it doesnt hit you (I am just dreaming lol) Who is Rainsong? Is he like reeeeally good at TK?
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Post by innerfire on Dec 14, 2006 19:22:55 GMT -5
1) *She* 2) Rainsong is very good at a wide amount of skills, she's one of the most experienced people I know in the online communities.
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Post by surge on Dec 14, 2006 19:48:52 GMT -5
1) *She* 2) Rainsong is very good at a wide amount of skills, she's one of the most experienced people I know in the online communities. Know as in ,have talked to many times, or just heard about.
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Post by innerfire on Dec 14, 2006 19:56:11 GMT -5
Both, I've been getting help and running ideas by her as needed for my projects for quite some time now.
And, I've heard a lot of stuff about her (like the car thing) from other people.
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Post by confuded92 on Dec 15, 2006 2:02:49 GMT -5
Both, I've been getting help and running ideas by her as needed for my projects for quite some time now. And, I've heard a lot of stuff about her (like the car thing) from other people. The next time you are contacting her please ask a side wuestion: Could you stop a bullet with your shield or walk casualy araound in a storm? Are there any TK shielding arrticles (on PsiPog for example) ?
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Post by The Devil's Advocate on Dec 15, 2006 12:07:00 GMT -5
Look for articles reguarding 'force bubbles.' I recomend you work on TK outside of that first. If you can't move anything at all with TK, you will not be able to program a construct to. If you can't use the ability, neither can the construct.
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Post by innerfire on Dec 15, 2006 18:05:31 GMT -5
Both, I've been getting help and running ideas by her as needed for my projects for quite some time now. And, I've heard a lot of stuff about her (like the car thing) from other people. The next time you are contacting her please ask a side wuestion: Could you stop a bullet with your shield or walk casualy araound in a storm? Are there any TK shielding arrticles (on PsiPog for example) ? I can answer that pretty well myself: With a force bubble shield the second one I've heard of before, several people in tk have done some form of a rain shield. The first is theoretically possible but its highly unlikely to be able to pull it off. You'd have to have enough energy in the shield to decellerate the bullet within the span of less than a second, which is an incredible amount of force from a physics standpoint. The only thing *maybe* that would be realistic is trying to nudge the bullet so you're no longer in its path, but even that would require a fair amount of energy to have enough of an change on the bullet's path to make a difference.
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Post by confuded92 on Dec 16, 2006 18:24:15 GMT -5
The next time you are contacting her please ask a side wuestion: Could you stop a bullet with your shield or walk casualy araound in a storm? Are there any TK shielding arrticles (on PsiPog for example) ? I can answer that pretty well myself: With a force bubble shield the second one I've heard of before, several people in tk have done some form of a rain shield. The first is theoretically possible but its highly unlikely to be able to pull it off. You'd have to have enough energy in the shield to decellerate the bullet within the span of less than a second, which is an incredible amount of force from a physics standpoint. The only thing *maybe* that would be realistic is trying to nudge the bullet so you're no longer in its path, but even that would require a fair amount of energy to have enough of an change on the bullet's path to make a difference. What about grounding? Maybe that will work. I mean like getting energy from ground, sun, minn etc. Thats new to me DA! "If you can`t use the ability, neither the construct can." Could you tell me what do you mean by that? Like if I program the construct to alert me if somebody does something (example) its not going to happen? I cant alert myself if somebody does something around the corner .
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Post by innerfire on Dec 16, 2006 19:09:27 GMT -5
Grounding is a visualization tool to get you to bring forward your own energy, unless you're thinking from a Wiccan perspective, random bodies of rock/gas don't have psychic energy.
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Post by The Devil's Advocate on Dec 17, 2006 0:34:20 GMT -5
Grounding: Grounding is not actually a visualization tool. It is the act of separating energy that is YOURS from energy that is NOT yours, especially when the other energies are present in an overwhelming amount. It USES a visualization to accomplish, usually. (This is a technique I have used quite often, especially during an overload.)
A construct cannot use a skill you cannot. If you could detect someone attempting to scan you, then yes you can program a construct to do so. If you cannot use TK you cannot program a force bubble, because a force bubble requires the use of TK. Most people actually CAN detect an inncomming scan if they were paying attention at the right time. The construct simply takes over the function of 'paying attention' so you can focus on other things. It is not doing something you could NOT if you wanted to just sit there and pay attention to everything everyone sent your way.
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Post by innerfire on Dec 17, 2006 0:57:30 GMT -5
My mistake, I was refering to just the general idea of "getting energy from the sun/moon/etc" thing.
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Post by NightHawk on Dec 17, 2006 12:00:09 GMT -5
If you go back to what does strengthen your shield, I think it depends on your will's power. So it might not be always as strong as it should be. Maybe if you're in real trouble then your shield works efficiently than while practicing. Right?
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