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Post by confuded92 on Mar 4, 2007 0:47:06 GMT -5
The amount of energy you put in it or how you build it?
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Post by Requisite on Mar 4, 2007 13:19:40 GMT -5
I'd say both, and another factor of how forceful and clear your intent is.
Thus: 1.) Amount of energy and density 2.) Amount of intent, clarity in programming, etc. 3.) How it is actually constructed
May have missed a factor or two.
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Post by salemdaykor on Mar 4, 2007 16:38:46 GMT -5
Big factor... What you are trying to shield lol. Diffrent things need different shields to be stopped properly.
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Post by The Devil's Advocate on Mar 4, 2007 18:54:48 GMT -5
However, salem, in general the principles are the same. The construction, energy, and density of the shield all play a factor in how effective the shield is. What exact construction is required to best shield against a specific threat varries; however, in my experience the actual structure of the shield has less impact on what it blocks than the programing. For example, my puzzle box shield is really most effective against direct energy application of some sort, but it doesn't care what form that energy takes.
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Post by confuded92 on Mar 4, 2007 23:12:42 GMT -5
Technicly the cleverness of how you make a shield (let me call it the 'brain') could "survive" better then, the amount of energy (let my call it 'power') stuffed into a shield thats not programed properly and has alot of 'exploits' in it (like ProBoards do ).
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Post by TC on Mar 4, 2007 23:18:27 GMT -5
But the two are balanced off of each other. The "brain" of the shield would need the "power" to shield it. The "power" or body of the shield needs the "brain" to tell it what it's doing. Both are just as vital.
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Post by confuded92 on Mar 4, 2007 23:22:20 GMT -5
OK in every case some "power" is required, it just depence how much and by "power" i mean alot of it.
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Post by The Devil's Advocate on Mar 5, 2007 9:06:53 GMT -5
"Alot of it" is very ambiguous, Confuded. Any structure you make needs the strength to maintain itself without collapsing under its own 'weight'. This requries energy. "Power"
There are 3 parts to this not just 2. You have the programing that is the intention of the shield and what it is designed to protect against. This is different than the structure. The structure is simply how the construct is built, what its strong and weak points are. The purpose and structure of the shield are different. You can have a thread-structure shield that defends against attacks or protects against empathy. Different programing, same structure. A thread structure requires more energy to maintain it than a basic bubble structure of the shields. The thread structure is a more efficient use of energy but its minimum is much higher than the very simple structure of the bubble shield. You cannot entirely separte energy, programing, and structure. They all are required if a shield is to have its maximum affect.
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Post by wolfdancer on Mar 5, 2007 16:49:06 GMT -5
How you build the shield (programming and construction/structure) is more important than sheer energy applied, in my opinion. However, both are important factors. If you build a shield well, but lack the energy needed to support it it will fail. If you feed a lot of energy into a poorly constructed shield, again, it will fail.
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Post by confuded92 on Mar 5, 2007 18:36:03 GMT -5
OK this answers allmy dum questions, thanks guys...
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Post by TC on Mar 5, 2007 19:25:28 GMT -5
The only stupid question is an unasked question. Corny, I know. But true. Even the questions that sound extremely stupid are in fact helpful.
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Post by The Devil's Advocate on Mar 6, 2007 9:11:04 GMT -5
I agree. It was not a stupid thread or a stupid question, Confuded. It was a valid question, especially given your dealings with constructs. Just because there's some debate on a question you ask doesn't make it a bad one! ~The Devil's Advocate
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Post by Stony1205 on Mar 23, 2007 15:19:26 GMT -5
I've found that shields can be run with very low amounts of energy if they are constructed properly. Much like a bird's bones are hollow yet strong due to shape, so you shields can apply the same technique.
There is also another school of thought, that says that contructs only fail because we THINK they can fail. Or something. I dont really follow on that thought due to lots of factors, but some people claim speedy success with it.
Mostly, just program, and keep everything recharged, and you should be good to go. Rebuilding shields take a good deal of energy to be done right, and not just a "patch job"
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Post by confuded on Mar 23, 2007 15:59:53 GMT -5
OK, thanks stony . Think good and it will be good , I heard this saying like a milion times . Thanks.
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Post by innerfire on Mar 23, 2007 16:21:11 GMT -5
I've found that shields can be run with very low amounts of energy if they are constructed properly. Much like a bird's bones are hollow yet strong due to shape, so you shields can apply the same technique. There is also another school of thought, that says that contructs only fail because we THINK they can fail. Or something. I dont really follow on that thought due to lots of factors, but some people claim speedy success with it. Mostly, just program, and keep everything recharged, and you should be good to go. Rebuilding shields take a good deal of energy to be done right, and not just a "patch job" ~ Stony I wouldn't say it could make them *actually* indestructible, but having some faith in what you make would probably be useful That's why I tend to spend some extra time picking out a particular visualization for each of my shield layers, having something that I consider to be strong really has an effect on its structural strength in my opinion.
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