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Post by adumbdoor on Aug 8, 2008 16:08:25 GMT -5
Okay, I think that I can make Psiballs, I can feel the warm in my hands, and I manipulate it and whatnot, but I don't exactly know if I am actually making one, or if it is my imagination. How can I tell? And how do I know if my other things are working? (i.e. shields, and things)
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Post by goliath797 on Aug 8, 2008 22:57:33 GMT -5
There is no definite way, other then to believe, or use a thermometer . Psiballs should effect temperature (by a bit). The way you know it's working is if you can do things with it. Aka change the temperature, or float it around. If it's really good, you could probably throw it and play catch with yourself. If it's made well, you should definitely" feel" it.
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Post by The Devil's Advocate on Aug 10, 2008 23:18:19 GMT -5
Not all psiballs affect temperature to a noticeable degree, though I do concur that a well made psiball will be detectable. Don't box yourself in thinking in terms of 'tingly feelings' or temperature, though those are two of the most common indicators.
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Post by waxymcrivers on Jan 13, 2009 20:25:05 GMT -5
hey i am having the same prob. and how are you supposed to know if you are floating it around if you cant see them yet
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Post by The Devil's Advocate on Jan 14, 2009 6:08:31 GMT -5
You learn. Scanning is not the same as 'seeing'. You can only physically 'see' a psiball if you flare it. Which takes a lot more energy than just learning how to check the area. At the very earliest stages of awareness you should have at least a general sense of where your psiball is. If you have an online practice buddy you can toss psiballs at each other which is good practice for both construct creation and control, as well as scanning/awareness training.
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Post by leodragon on Jan 16, 2009 10:45:04 GMT -5
Any affect on the physical environment would be PK. A psi ball that can affect temperature would have psychokinetic components to it, however, not all constructs have psychokinetic components to it, therefore, a physical reaction is not the only indicator.
Also, a tingly feeling can be explained via biofeedback. In essence, a psi ball is a deliberately formed conceptualization or thought form, which is easier than anything to make. Imagine a psi ball and you created a conceptualization of one, therefore, you made a thought form that exist. Now, to percieve it as an actual thing would require a degree of ESP aka scanning, a term which I hate. Trying to get it to do something is the hard part. Getting it to generate a particular physical manifestation in terms of any type of kinetic energy would be a psychokinetic component. In order to generate heat, it would have to absorb and emit kinetic energy. It is interacting with physical components of the world. In order to create a slight VERY weak force to create a weird type of pull/push feeling, it would have to create a type of force/kinetic energy of doing that. The mind/consiousness is manipulating the kinetic energy in terms of a conceptualization or construct to get that result.
That being said, a psi ball would just be a thought form. It would have the same affect as if someone imagined a ball. Wouldn't do much would it? However, if you "programmed" the thought form to interact with x,y, and z in terms of x,y, and z it would be more than just a thought or a thought form. When trying to make a psi ball that can cause a physical response, you are attempting to tell that conceptualization or thought form to interact with the physical world in x,y, and z and do this, which results in whatever.
Essentially imagining anything is suffice to create a thought form on some level. That being said, the question is not how do I know if I am making a psi ball, due to the fact that imagining something is suffice to create a conceptuilazation of it, but how do I know if I am making a psi ball that actually affects the environment and can be verified as having a physical response? Tingling sensations and so on and so forth could be the result of the mind recalling and replaying sensations to accompany the conceptualization/imagination, and therefore, wouldn't be doing anything at all, or it could be biofeedback, so that is not good. You should take some type of measuring device and attempt to measure it. A psi ball is just a thought form that is made to do something specific and is made up of the same stuff that constitutes where it came from, therefore, it can not be measured, as of now, but its physical affects can be measured and verified. If it is causing a kinetic manifestation you can measure it so you know for sure. Going by sensations alone is a good way to fool yourself.
I imagine a ball. It exist as a thought form. Any person who can pick up conceptual things could sense it floating there. That would be a type of scanning tied more or so to empathy/telepathy, by the way. It wouldn't be doing anything and probably register the same as any other "mental information". But let us say that I imagine a ball and I mold that "ball" via further conceptualization to interact with someone in x,y, and z. Due to its lack of PK components, its interaction would simply be mental. Perceiving it would depend on the ESP of another person, however, if its affect can be verified it worked.
Say you imagine a ball and mold it/program it to send a thought/emotion to someone and launch it. If the person gets it and relays it, then it worked. Imagining it is enough to create anything, however, it is not enough to get it to do something. Physical manifestations of a psi ball can be measured, so if you want to know for certain, measure it.
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