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Post by snowballrox on Aug 5, 2008 11:10:15 GMT -5
I was listening to my Ipod the other day on shuffle mode, and in the middle of listening to 1 song, I heard another in my head. At the end of the tune, the song switched to the one I heard in my head earlier. I'm wondering. Was it precognition, Micro-Tk or just pure coincidence?
This info may help: I had 62 songs on my Ipod at the time.
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Post by The Devil's Advocate on Aug 5, 2008 13:21:02 GMT -5
Probably just coincidence, not likely micro-tk. If it is psionic at all sounds more like precognition. If those two songs always are paired like that then it's purely coincidence. For the most part unless it happens regularly and establishes a pattern, mundane conclusions are usually the most accurate.
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Post by snowballrox on Aug 5, 2008 14:41:27 GMT -5
The songs aren't always paired together. They where just together then.
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Post by goliath797 on Aug 5, 2008 22:08:48 GMT -5
Actually research shows that the ipod's "shuffle" setting, doesn't actually shuffle it. It goes in some kind of order that seems random, but isn't. Your brain might've caught onto that pattern o.o. If the research is true, micro-tk wouldn't do anything, cause it has nothing to do with probability, it's all pre-determined.
We can't really tell you if it was coincidence or not. Either way, you'll agree with whatever you want to hear. Something like this is hard to prove, due to the fact that you really weren't trying. Since you didn't "attempt" to influence the outcome (or maybe you were, you never stated) it was probably precognition or coincidence, doubt it was micro-tk
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Post by DarkTiger on Aug 8, 2008 15:08:57 GMT -5
It happens to me with about 6 different media programs on my computer and the many number of mp3 players I have gone through over the last year. Personally, I think it's micro-pk. (I have ~2000 songs on my computer and ~400 songs on my mp3 player)
It also happens where I want a song I really like to play and it does the next song. I can't really do it if I think about effecting odds and stuff, but if I'm not really thinking about psionics, it happens.
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Post by goliath797 on Aug 8, 2008 22:56:03 GMT -5
@darktiger, yeah for some reason, with most things with psionics, you can't really think about it, it just happens when you barely think about it.
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Post by The Devil's Advocate on Aug 10, 2008 1:41:19 GMT -5
If it's common then I'd lean towards micro-TK, though I would like to state (again) for the record: Probability is an analytical result not an actual thing. You can change the analysis all you want, but that doesn't change the actual outcome or the factors going into that outcome. Probability isn't something you can manipulate directly. You have to manipulate the factors that lead to a given out come. In the case of the IPod, you'd have to tinker with something in the selection process. Most computers use the microsecond on the clock as a 'start point' for their randomness. Other programs use Pi. The former is more likely to appear truly random than the latter, since the 'start point' IS chosen almost randomly by the user based on when they decided to run the code.
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