Shielding Problem

[ansib]

So last night i was attempting to make a shielf for myself, it was the first time i had actually tried to make one. Firstly i had psi move around my body until i got used to it (Started feeling a great deal of stinging) and then i had it spray out of my head down my body. And i told it to stay in that position and block any unwanted or unpleasant energy, and i also said that it should notify me when any unwanted energy tries to reach me, and if it did then i wanted it dissolved...(Am i doing this right, or am i missing something out?)

Now this is the problem, after i thought i made my shield and had done everthing i wanted it to, i stopped, i dont really have a 'feel' for it, if it's there or not, is this because my scanning ability is low?, or am i supposed to concentrate and try to 'feel' out my shield?
(I need to start joining chatrooms that do regular tasks like Scanning ) Does anyone know of an active chatrooms?

[innerfire]

I always have trouble sensing my shields after I've made them and they've sunk more into the background, but can find them with enough work. It's just a little harder to focus on something that surrounds you and has been there for some time. It also may not have formed (since this is an early attempt it might have collapsed for many different reasons).

As to programming, that's a bit vague but it's a start towards something.

On darkmyst a lot of the chat's have turned dead. I haven't been around myself recently to check on any of my older hangouts, but last I checked there were some people in #PsionicsOnline (which is Metal's site, not this one). Mostly inexperienced people but you might find someone to work with. Very few chatrooms sadly are oriented towards doing a lot of work, but you can try to see if there's anyone that wants to practice.

I actually wouldn't mind occasionally practicing with someone also.

[ansib]

Can you tell me as to what you do or say when your programming your shield?
I really need more help on shielding
I joined the #psionline channel but i think it was totally dead, shame :/

[innerfire]

My shields have gotten a bit complex, I'm not sure how much help it'd be to go into what I do.

I do have a log from an Energy Manipulation class I ran a little while ago that may be useful. We had a class on basic shielding. It's a bit long so I'll PM it to you.

[wolfdancer]

It depends on what type of shield you are trying to make/program. If you are a little more specific as to what the purpose of the shield is, I will see if I can give you any tips based on how I deal with it. I have dealt with several different types of shields and many are probably not the type of shield you are trying to create.

~Wolf

[ansib]

Well I'm just trying to make a basic shield that will protect me from people who try to scan me when i don't want them to...
Innerfire was right, my programming was very vague, heh i am after all a beginner
Anyway, i just need some help on the programming side, and is there a link or article that shows the different types of shields and its purpose?
EDIT: I just thought of something else, when someone attempts to scan you, would you feel anything or sense that you are being scanned? Also when i ask my shields to detect any unwanted energy, would i have to be able to scan as well for the shield itself to scan any energy coming in? I had read something similar in the astral topic and someone was talking about how you must know how to do the certain skill in order for your shield to do it. Is this true and if so should i learn scanning first?

Thanks,
Ansib

[innerfire]

Learning scanning certainly wouldn't hurt but I'm not sure if it's *needed* in this case.

Did you check your messages? The copy I sent of that one class session goes into the types of basic shields.

I'm online in the chat for a *short* bit before I have to go work on some things if you need more help.

[ansib]

Well i've read the article, it helped and tonight i will be trying some shielding in bed, because its the only time i'm relaxed and when everything's quite, so i'll post my results tommorow and see how im getting on

[The Devil's Advocate]

Learning to scan is not just helpful it's necessary and pretty much unavoidable. "Detecting your shield" is a scan. Finding your constructs after making them is a function of scanning/psionic awareness. Most people talk themselves out of being able to do scanns, especially early on. It's as instinctive as seeing in. You just have to develop your ability to NOTICE. (And not second guess yourself to death, right Innerfire? *tease*). Now, noticing someone is scanning you is also instinctive, to some level, doing it /reliably/ takes practice. You tend to notice intrusions more and more clearly as you practice with psi. Depending on the 'heavy handedness' of the scanner you might not notice much or you might not beable to miss it. Just like someone brushing up against you in a crowd you're going to notice a light touch or the wind from a near-miss (very delicate surface scan) much less than getting tripped over by a professional weightlifter (a very heavy handed or intrusive scan.) Now, you can program a shield to notify you when it's blocked something, but for the most part I don't recomend that unless it's blocked something major (at which piont, after a while you'll know anyway on your own.)

Otherwise I look forward to seeing your results.

If I have confused anyone, please let me know. I'm in a somewhat rambly state of mind and that may not have come out as clearly as I thought it did.

~The Devil's Advocate

[ansib]

I felt really sleepy last night, i can't seem to find a good time to practise, my family is quite noisy, so its hard for my to concentrate, plus i also have exams which make it more difficult. So i will have to leave psi on one side for the time being until my exams finish

[jeg63]

Jun 3, 2008 11:46:04 GMT -5 ansib said:

EDIT: I just thought of something else, when someone attempts to scan you, would you feel anything or sense that you are being scanned?

If someone attempts to scan you, you may or may not notice them. It depends on their innate ability level, and their expertise at scanning.
The best scanners can look in on your thoughts un-noticed, but as soon as they try to do Telepathic Suggestion, or place any kind of foreign thought , idea, or vision into your head, then you Should start to be able to learn to tell when this is happening - then scan out and try to communicate with the person, who will either cut and run, or stay and exchange a few thoughts, ideas and/or feelings with you.
I have a habit of discussing the more advanced aspects of psionics/scanning because it's what I know best - I hope this helps some.

[The Devil's Advocate]

Actually, Jeg, it takes more than scanning to look in on anyone's thoughts. Most people project what they're thinking at least to a minimal degree but that is a very different process. If you're going to discuss 'advanced' topics get your facts straight before you post.

As I said in mine, most scanners tend to be rather heavy handed at the beginning. And the more data they're trying to gather the more likely you are to be able to pick up on it because there are more 'points of contact'. (Difference between touching something lightly with one finger or putting your whole hand on someone's shoulder.) Detecting telepathy, empathy, healing, or any of the other skills is somewhat related but the symptoms are very different in my experience, and they are much easier to detect than scanning.

~The Devil's Advocate