New to PK (have done psi balls)

[robotgymnast]

Right, I've done some psi ball stuff (two days' worth), and I decided I'd try getting as broad a view of psionics as possible, so I wondered rather than trying to move things with psi balls (which I can't do reliably), how do I move them directly? So I'm basically new to PK without any psi manipulation, so help is appreciated!

[TC]

How do you move objects directly? With your hands! Only joking.

Here's the deal though. I have to tell you, nothing in psionics is a simple "how-to". There's a lot of research, a lot of practice, and a lot of experimentation that comes with anything here. Asking "how" to do a psionic practice is very difficult to answer, because truth be told, a lot of us hold different ideas and different methods on how to perform certain psionic tasks.

What I'd recommend is that you read through some of the articles here. THE BEST information for psionics comes from articles, from experienced authors who have been doing it for a long time. Also, check out the psipog articles. A lot of those are just as helpful. I personally can't help you with PK. Not one of my strong suites.

[robotgymnast]

actually.. magick's a lot harder to give a "how to" for than psionics. Psionics is more one-sided, and I just meant what sort of methods are commonly used.
At any rate, I've found like 5 articles on PsiPog just on that, and about a billion on other things

[wolfdancer]

What TC said is absolutely correct their are many different techniques, theories, and approaches within psionics and often as we learn our methods become more refined. He is also right in saying that you will not find a lot of "do-this-and-you-will-automatically-have-success" guides to psionics. It doesn't work that way. Just because some one suggests trying something does not mean that their method will work for you. It might and that would be great, but their are quirks in this field that we are still trying to understand.

May I ask what you are basing your assessment of psionics being more straightforward and one-sided on? I would be very curious to find out.

I am glad you found the articles, I hope they were helpful (and of course they had stuff on many other topics as well).

~wolfd@ncer~

[robotgymnast]

well not necessarily straightforward, but it's easier to start with, because for most people it's easier to comprehend. I guess it depends more on your type of mind than anything else, but in general psionics is easier to understand and therefore easier to progress in (at least for people of my brain type, other people don't need comprehension to work).

Yeah I know, not all methods work for everybody. That's why I like the guides that have different approaches and methods. I've found that a lot of people use methods that seem stupid to me, but it works well for them. Just some methods seem to work for more people than others

[TC]

Robotgymnast, I see that a lot of the time, you are relating psionics with magick. And while it's fine to believe what you want to believe, there are other members who don't necessarily study magick as much (if at all) as they do psionics. It just seems like you're using every available moment to enter magick into the discussion, and we're trying to talk about psionics. Whatever relation they have with each other in your mind is what you're free to believe in.

I don't know about you, but psionics is about as creative as anything could be, which is why it is, indeed, complicated. There are so many different methods, techniques, and ideas in psionics, the list is endless. I've never seen a perfect "how-to" article, and as much as we'd all like to understand psionics to that extent, we don't. So we stick with what we do know and use that to develop our own methods. I'm not saying I like psionics to be confusing, but it definitely isn't straightforward.

And I'm not sure I follow you on "different brain types".

[The Devil's Advocate]

Perhaps instead of 'brain type' you mean people of your own temperment? (Some people approach problems logically, others intuitively, others with a combination of techniques.)

I am one of the ones that TC mentioned. I won't touch magick with a 10ft pole. I can do enough detailed scanning to know that the Magick I have observed is a distinctly different energy type than psi and it is very easy NOT to tap that energy source when performing psionics.

~The Devil's Advocate