innerfire
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Post by innerfire on Jan 24, 2008 20:18:59 GMT -5
Em... Well draming energy from the groud is not correct. There isnt any to draw... Grouding however, is used to get rid of anrgy, send it off to earth. Just to clear confusion I believe confuded meant to say *energy*.
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Post by confuded on Jan 25, 2008 5:45:13 GMT -5
Yes, lol ;D. Sorry, phone keyboard ;D plus i was in a rush...
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Post by cbad on Jan 25, 2008 13:03:44 GMT -5
Yeah that would be the problem. Some people can draw energy from other sources then themselves (very rare individuals) but I don't think a single one of them can draw energy from the earth. If you think about it, the only energy that is there would be small amounts of heat and the tiny, TINY amounts of chemical energy in bacteria. If what you are having trouble with is simply feeling energy flow then may I recommend www.psipog.net/art-tactile-visualization.htmlIt's all about tactile visualization. I tried it when I was beginning and found it helpful so I hope it... helps Still, try pretending it as not body heat. Maybe that simply does not represent energy to your subconscious. Try a feeling that you can strongly bring to mind, a feeling you know very well (even static tingling works for some people) and try moving that around your body. My energy only feels hot when it's in my hands, I really can't describe how it feels when I move it. And if absolutely nothing works, try just making a psi ball without feeling the energy. Of course this is much more difficult because you have no idea where the energy is but if you visualize strongly and keep it tightly in control with your will then you should feel something in-between your hands. Not feeling the flow is one thing but everybody feels the psi ball. Trust me on this one, the first time I made a psi ball I didn't try to feel the energy and I still came out with a weak tingly psi ball.
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Post by Fearn on Jan 25, 2008 17:11:15 GMT -5
I think that when people 'draw from the earth' they're really just using a visualization to help them get the energy out of themselves.
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Post by cbad on Jan 25, 2008 17:56:00 GMT -5
It all depends. If they're just thinking that the energy comes from the earth into their body then they are probably just using that specific visualization even though they are really drawing it from their body. The problem is when people actually try to draw energy from the earth, into the psi ball, when they fundamentally believe the energy comes from the earth and do not try to use any other type of energy or when they don't think it will work without taking energy away from the earth. just imagining the energy flowing through you from the earth is just another way of visualizing the same thing but actually trying to draw energy from the earth is impossible.
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Post by confuded on Jan 28, 2008 8:09:31 GMT -5
I dont find it a good idea telling beginers about visulizaations envolving external objects or earth. Beginers usualy start to think about drawing psi from earth, which isnt possible (for most people). Then when they are told it is wrong and are explained the grouding technique, which seems completly useless to beginers...
Just a bad idea...
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cbad
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Post by cbad on Jan 28, 2008 14:55:00 GMT -5
Isn't that what I said?
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Post by confuded on Jan 28, 2008 18:13:47 GMT -5
Not really... I had put it at a bit different point of view and stated clearly that it is a bad idea and why .
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Post by cbad on Jan 28, 2008 23:54:45 GMT -5
Yes but it's still basically what I said. Even if it is better
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Post by seraphy on Feb 11, 2008 6:18:02 GMT -5
You could try my method, it works most of the time for other people. Try envisioning darkness, just a complete void empty of light, instead of trying to force the energy out try sensing it so to speak, let your mind wander a bit, but give yourself the task of finding the energy and begin to envision a cloud of energy floating in the void. Take the time to feel the energy in your mind not with your body and think of it as if it is building within your chest letting it flow by itself. This usually works VERY well for me and has worked in particularly good for people that are new to it, at least until they found their own better way. The way I figure it, creating a vivid thought while concentrating the energy distracts your mind from the actual task you're trying to accomplish, doing it as if it is natural even when you aren't good at it usually seems to work better. That and it's good meditation, being calm and collected helps ALOT in the long run
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