Operating System/Simulated Environment?

[xpwarrior3]

I've been toying with this idea for some time. The idea isn't actually mine, but someone gave it to me to work with. The person's pretty good at coming up with ideas, but just lacks the energy working skills to implement them.

Anyway, the topic. I've been working lately with this. Without going into detail, the idea is a construct that would be the 'engine' so-to-speak for a psychic operating system or simulated psychic environment. Basically the construct projects a field that creates a simulated psychic environment.

I've managed to create the construct and I got a scan on it. The scanner was not frontloaded and was able to scan deeply and tell me the features of the construct and also its main objective. I tested it for a construct spar, and based on the scans, the construct worked as intended. I managed to simulate a psychic environment... I still have much more that I'd like to do with this, but for now, its still experimental for me. There are so many things that could be done with this.

I just thought I'd share this with everyone. I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one thats thought a long these lines. I just want to know everyone's thoughts on this.

** NOTE **
I'm not quite sure if this is the correct place to post this. I thought either constructs or here... but this isn't exactly intended for just 'average' programming.

[wolfdancer]

It will actually fit better over here since it does fall under this subject category. It is a general discussion of a technique dealing with constructs...I know it is a challenge to know what is considered advanced at times.

Unfortunately, tonight I am not able to follow what you are saying or it's purpose. None of it makes sense practically. Perhaps someone else is able to read it more clearly. I've been missing some pretty obvious stuff today.

[The Devil's Advocate]

Could you elaborate on 'the scanner was not front loaded'.

In my experience there are ways of altering the 'psychic environment' but creating a specific one I would like more details on, including what you mean by 'psychic environment'. Do you mean altering the amount of ambient psi within the construct? If so what is to prevent someone from drawing energy from the construct itself? Or do you mean making the region within the construct more 'friendly' or 'hostile' to certain disciplines (that is boosting efficiency or degrading it?)

~The Devil's Advocate

[xpwarrior3]

I was afraid of that. I wasn't quite sure if anyone would understand when I initially posted it. The thing is that I don't quite know how to explain this.

The scanner was not front loaded. We were playing a construct scanning game. We created constructs with some complex programs and the each others constructs for features, programs and how the programs were set in place. I had had this idea for some time and I decided to create a construct for it. He had know prior knowledge to what I was creating, except that it was a construct. His scan was really accurate. He accurately described the features, the programming and how I set the programs.

Its a mixture, in-a-way, of all of what you mentioned. Part of it was messing around with ambient psi. I haven't gotten around to specific purposes of the enviroment yet, and dealing with someone drawing energy from it. Right now, this is all completely experimental. That's the reason why I'm posting it. I'd like to know what people think/thought of this topic. Is it a possibility? Or was it just altering the already existing psychic environment.

Maybe psychic is not a good word to use for this.... astral maybe?

[The Devil's Advocate]

You haven't explained what you mean by "not front loaded". To me that puts in mind artillery pieces that take their munitions from the front not the back. Neither have you explained why this should make a difference to someone else's scan quality. You do not 'load' a construct the way you load a cannon.

As for the rest of it, yes, it seems like you are modifying the local environment more than creating a completely new one. Could you give more details as to precisely what you are doing with this construct. What have you programed it to DO?

Astral is something COMPLETELY different. You haven't said anything that would lead me to believe you are mucking about with the Astral, which, quite frankly is a good thing. You're better off leaving the astral ALONE. If you're using purely Psi then it is the Psionic environment NOT the Astral. It would take much more powerful than you to alter the Astral.

~The Devil's Advocate

[xpwarrior3]

Everything is still in the experimental stage. What I am aiming to do is to either create some type of 'psychic environment' or alter an already existing psychic environment. I had managed to alter the environment and got a confirmation scan.

I programmed the construct to just go out into 'psychic space' and to project out a field (I'm starting out with a radius of about 4 yards). The construct acts as the engine for the field. The field alters ambient energy around it and then simulates that particular environment. It is supposed to project an aura of its own and have its own 'identity' so-to-speak, and maybe represent a landscape (for example, grasslands).

So far I'm working on getting the construct to simulate a stable environment. The first one I made didn't seem stable.... or didn't seem to hold up for long or very well.

I'm hoping that clarified things. If it didn't just let me know. I'm just interested in knowing what people think would work, and what won't.. and how to go about making this work if its possible.

[The Devil's Advocate]

You're not actually answering a lot of the questions that are being asked. For example the very straight forward one of: What do you mean by Front Loaded and not Front Loaded in regards to a construct?

We're not asking for disclaimers of experimental stages. We're asking for a report of the experiment. Given that psi does not naturally have a 'landscape' factor. It is there or not there in varying degrees. How much time have you spent observing the psi that is naturally in your area?

What are your long term goals for this, "Creating a psionic environment" is very, very vague. Are you trying to figure out how much you can muck with the ambient psi in your area? You seem to be expecting a construct to simulate a real life environment, which is rather unlikely. You're contradicting yourself as to what you want the construct to do at this stage, which is probably a good part of the instability of your test construct.

You still have not defined what you term a "Stable environment" nor have you defined "Front Loading." If you're going to make up your own terminology you cannot assume we're going to know instinctively what you're talking about. You have to TELL us. It's like your lab reports in Chemistry. You go through step by step and either use pre-approved technical language (Hint hint: Psi technical language has a very SMALL vocabulary.) You're skipping all over the place and assuming we just 'know what you're talking about'. If it helps, put it in "Lab Report" (aka "scientific paper") style format. State your objectives. State your initial observations that led you to this experiment. State your procedures (INCLUDE any terminology that your audience may not know.) State the results of the experiment (another round of observations, refrain from speculation). State your conclusions (Here you can use your previous observations to support your speculation. Tell us WHY you think it did what you wanted it to do.)

Right now your theory is one big garble that could be anyone of a dozen different projects. Some that I've tried some that I haven't. We can't give opinions if we don't understand what you're trying to do. We can't understand what you're trying to do if you don't clearly tell us. You seem to have something more complicated in mind than just a random construct sitting in the middle of a room putting out energy and trying to convince anyone scanning it that it's more important than it really is.

~The Devil's Advocate

[xpwarrior3]

Sorry. Too much has been going on with me, and discussing this makes me more insecure about the construct and whether or not it was actually doing what I initially thought of when I wanted to make it.

Sorry. I thought I answered the frontloading issue... guess not. I didn't make frontloading up. I didn't even know what it was until earlier this year when someone told me. Frontloading is (in regards to psionics and sensing) when someone gives someone else (the scanner) information that could lead to AOL (Analytical Overlay). So instead of the scanner getting a true scan, they subconsciously make something up because of prior knowlede that they have.

I've spent about two or three months observing the psi that is naturally in my area. I don't actually have any long-term goals for this. That's one reason why I initially posted so that I could get help with this. I'm essentially messing around with ambient energy, yes. Why would it be unlikely to simulate a "real life" environment? I'm asking because I don't know.

By stable I mean that the construct consistently simulates the environment for whatever set amount of time that I programmed.

As for the report....

My objective is to simulate some type of psychic environment. It doesn't have to look like or be like a naturally occuring physical environment... It may give off the feeling of a naturally occuring physical environment, but it isn't meant to act like a naturally occuring physical environment. Maybe act like something along the lines of points where ley lines cross.

A few things that led me to want to experiment with this was the thought of enhancing skill in a way, without overlaying modifications, amps and other overlays on my system. Another thought was an alternate type of 'shield' so-to-speak. I'm somewhat bored with conventional shields.

I started by making the construct. Standard, psi-ball shape, about the size of a basketball, but a little smaller. Its appearance would resemble some sort of machine. There would be a core program (like the motherboard) that regulates the rest of the programs (by either switching them of or on). There are other bits and pieces (chips, if you want to call them that, which are the other smaller programs regulated by the core program) that are connected to the "motherboard". I started out with programs for just regulating the size of the projected field, the intensity of the simulated environments 'aura' and just managing to alter the environment period. I placed it and in my living room and wanted to go for something a long the lines of ... cold, spacious... watery. Some type of deep, subtle, empowerment feeling.

I observed the construct and noticed a change in my area, but the change didn't last long. I know I did something, just couldn't tell exactly what and if it was along the lines of what I did. I also noticed a change in my construct when I took a look at it afterwards. It felt weaker that what it was when I created it.

My conclusion is that I did something, and I may be on to something, I just don't know what. That's why I came here for help. It wasn't just the construct making itself seem more important than what it really is, because my younger brother is sensitive to psi and I didn't tell him what I was doing and he noticed a change in the 'environment'.

Either that... or it is just a bunch of garble and I'm just kidding myself... I hope I made more sense now that I did before. Again, sorry.

[wolfdancer]

Actually, yes. When you put it in 'report' form it was a lot more clearer what you were trying to describe! I could actually follow you.

I'm not sure I have any in depth advice or ideas about how this might be useful right now, but at least the concept of what you are doing came across.

~Wolfdancer

[The Devil's Advocate]

This makes much more sense. I would strongly recommend one thing: Try and make the construct a single cohesive whole to start with.

I could see this actually changing the levels of ambient Psi... the catch being it could only 'raise' the environment proportional to the amount of energy it had so you would have to recharge it regularly, unless it was drawing psi from other regions. Psi follows conservation laws like most other things in the universe, which probably explains the lessening of energy in your original construct.

Again it seems like you're making things needlessly complicated as far as the programing goes. In my experience Psi tends to integrate 'parts' poorly unless they are simply truly independent parts with independent purposes that simply occupy the same place to do their tasks. How comfortable are you with concept programing? You seem to be doing a great deal of this in a step-by-step method...

It is an interesting idea. I'm not sure how much utility it will have, but it may be worth playing with just to understand how psi works a little better.

~The Devil's Advocate

[xpwarrior3]

A step-by-step method is the way I programmed the first test construct. Concept programing (which I'm very familiar with) is the next style I'm going to use and program the second test construct.. or reprogram the first....

xpwarrior3 said:

I use many different systems when it comes to creating my constructs and it all depends on what it is I'm actually trying to do. Primarily I encode my constructs semantically and tactilely. I "feel" the programs into place and let it take shape (the way I intend). I'm not sure if that made sense............... Each program is a system of its own and is interlaced with other programs...........

Wouldn't that count as conceptual programming.... in a way?

Also, I'm not actually working on its benefits or usefulness as of now. I'm only trying to get through the first phase and simulate a stable environment. Then afterwards, when I'm through with that phase, I'll start messing around even more and look into how useful this could be.

The Devil's Advocate: Thank you for your advice. I'll keep all of that in mind.

I'm glad that the concept of what I wanted to describe finally got across. Now I learned an easier way of explaining things. Thank you.

[The Devil's Advocate]

Actually "Programing Semantically" literally means "programing with the details of language" which to me, implies step by step. Tactile describes the input you use most office and 'feeling them into place' could take many different forms, only some of which would qualify as concept programing. It still sounds much more like step by step rather than using a whole concept. Ironically I am thinking the confusion may truly be a matter of semantics. Different understanding of the same phrases, though I don't think this is the place to go into over all programing techniques. I would very much like to discuss that with you in another thread.

It will be interesting to see what you come up with in further tests on this project.

~The Devil's Advocate

[xpwarrior3]

Ah okay. That all makes sense now. Thanks. I'll rethink my views on concept programming.