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Post by prodigy on Oct 25, 2007 18:17:14 GMT -5
Ever tried to work with psi in different conditions? how about doing it n the dark? or even in the shower or tub. Well i now ask a question of you. Are animals sensitive to psi? for example would they react if a psi ball was made near them? would they not feel it, or would they freak out. Also i ask, if they are sensitive to psi. does their "ability" to feel psi come with their relation to humans and what we do?
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Post by innerfire on Oct 25, 2007 18:24:27 GMT -5
Rainsong said cats are fairly sensitive to psi, and occasionally will react to a psiball near them. There is also some research leaning to animals being sensitive to psi from the N'kisi project www.sheldrake.org/nkisi/It's unlikely that their ability to feel psi comes from humans, we had a thread a while ago about psi and animals and I believe it was agreed that all lifeforms can produce some level of psychic energy.
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Post by prodigy on Oct 25, 2007 18:25:41 GMT -5
Thanks ill be sure to check it out.
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Post by The Devil's Advocate on Oct 25, 2007 18:55:03 GMT -5
My experiences: Dogs respond most strongly to Empathy... Cats respond differently to empathy and telepathy.
I can make Yapping Chihuahuas be silent using Empathy. Pulling the same trick on yowling cats is a whole nother story.
I would argue that humans and living things do not necessarily PRODUCE psi, merely access it.
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Post by prodigy on Oct 25, 2007 18:58:33 GMT -5
Then as you suggested, if we don't "produce" psi, we mearly access it. then where do we draw it from. and as any other source it must run out at some time, so what do we do when it is up. and how much do you think this source has? i hope we don't run out and have to quit psionics!
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Post by The Devil's Advocate on Oct 25, 2007 21:01:09 GMT -5
The full nature of Psi is a debate for the general topics or the Advanced sections, but in my scans (grain of salt right there) there seems to be an 'ambient Psi" that doesn't seem to fluctuate. I can typically tell a psion from a non psion, even if there are no active constructs because a psion will have a higher 'concentration' of psi around them. This energy does not seem to be produced anywhere, it just seems to shift location. I've not seen anyone yet who can actually make a dent in the ambient levels of psi. And even when I've gathered 'as much as possible' (yes that was the concept I was using.) The ambient levels did not drop, though my own personal 'reserve' was depleted. And I had deliberately drawn on the ambient as well as my own personal reserves... (that higher 'concentration' I mentioned earlier.)
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Post by prodigy on Oct 25, 2007 21:04:55 GMT -5
So by saying that Psions have more psi around them. are you implying that they are more of a psi magnet? Or that they use their own psi and as a result it is "exposed". and they can be identifyed by it. Also this thought poped into my head. not to be off topic but, does everybody have their own "version of psi" such as naturally hot or cold psi?
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Post by The Devil's Advocate on Oct 25, 2007 21:18:41 GMT -5
Everyone has their own 'signature' think of it as a psionic finger print that they leave whenever they touch psi.
And I'm not sure. I've been trying to find out how the 'extra' psi around psions got there. It also seems to be completely stable in anything but the most extreme circumstances. (The above example, I was defending against a 3 prong attack that had come close to completely collapsing my shields. It was a complicated and sophisticated issue and took everything I had and could beg steal or borrow to deal with. Not a normal circumstance.)
In general, I have concluded that this 'extra psi' is what most people refer to when speaking of their 'field.' It seems to match with my observations. In most cases Psi seems to be consistent from psion to psion once you can get past the utter lack of terminology available to describe psi. (Analogies are imprecise.)
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Post by prodigy on Oct 27, 2007 15:21:39 GMT -5
Hmm, that is very interesting. but if this energy surrounding Psions is their "field" would it react if in contact with another field? such as would 2 psions be able to recognize that the other person was a psion? Or maybe some other outcome. Or perhaps nothing at all
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Post by The Devil's Advocate on Oct 28, 2007 17:00:22 GMT -5
Yes, it would. I had issues with this with my geochemistry teacher. He had very strong shields up. The interaction between his shields and mine was... interesting... and wound up giving me a massive headache for a few classes. I recognized him as a Psion, and, while we've never overtly talked about the issue, several of his actions on a psionic level lead me to believe he recognized me as one as well.
Now, this is interaction between two practiced psions. Someone new to psionics (either new to understanding, or completely new to use) might not realize the significance of what they are picking up on.
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Post by prodigy on Oct 28, 2007 17:07:51 GMT -5
Would you have to be a Very practiced psion to pick up on it? Or could some one who new the basics figure it out?
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Post by The Devil's Advocate on Oct 28, 2007 17:26:56 GMT -5
You could probably figure it out, but it takes some ability with scanning and then it's just a matter of correctly interpreting what you sense. It doesn't matter if you can pick up the most minute details, you have to learn what they mean and most of the time that just takes time and experience. How much is largely dependent on the person.
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Post by prodigy on Oct 28, 2007 17:37:31 GMT -5
Thanks youve awnsered a lot. ;D
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Post by innerfire on Oct 28, 2007 18:13:04 GMT -5
I would argue that humans and living things do not necessarily PRODUCE psi, merely access it. ~The Devil's Advocate It's a bit late but I wanted to jump in, I'd more argue that it's probably a little of both. From both what's said here and elsewhere I know there's some convincing cases from the accessing theory, but I also have some experiences that would to indicate humans also produce psi. The two need not be mutually exclusive. This is slightly off topic so I'll take it to D&D if anyone wants to discuss more on this.
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Post by prodigy on Oct 28, 2007 18:41:51 GMT -5
Well i recently posted something about my point of view on what psi is and where it comes from. And the original poster also shares my ideas on how psi is reused and such, I will post the link.
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