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Post by shaggard on Sept 30, 2006 20:33:21 GMT -5
Do most of you strictly use a personal reserve of energy, or do you draw it out of other sources, like the earth/sun/nature? I've heard mixed opinions and ideas on the subject, and was curious.
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Post by innerfire on Sept 30, 2006 21:11:14 GMT -5
Under most circumstances I use personal reserves. The earth/sun/nature thing differs depending on who you talk to:
1) Wiccans and New Age are more inclined to believe that they're actually utilizing energy from something like that.
2) Most psions go with the idea that doing something like that is a mental trick to cause you to bring forward your own energy. The justification being that psi is theorized to come from the nervous system, with the exception of animals (for nature), none of the above sources have a nervous system, so they cannot provide any significant amount of energy.
*) Obviously these categories can overlap since Wiccans/New Age/Psions are all utilizing psychic abilities, and people do always concretely pick one viewpoint, so a Psion that tends to be interested in New Age ideas might lean towards the first definition or vice versa. Also before anyone gets jumpy, while some people use psion as a term for a wider range of psychics (which might include New Age and/or Wiccans), I prefer to use the term to define the group of psychics that follow more of a scientific idealogy in relation to psychic practice, so for example it would be people coming from this community or Pog.
Out of curiousity on the whole aquiring energy from cosmic sources thing, one night I tried to see if I could gather anything significant from the moon during an eclipse, it didn't work out.
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Post by neveza on Sept 30, 2006 21:38:57 GMT -5
I dont' believe that there is a different source. I just believe that psi is just in the air surrounding us.
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Post by innerfire on Sept 30, 2006 22:23:26 GMT -5
Ah yeah I forgot about that, ambient energy I do believe in since it can come from decayed constructs and general energy that was expelled from a person for some reason, in most cases however I find that its less efficient than using your own energy.
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Post by wolfdancer on Sept 30, 2006 22:23:42 GMT -5
I do not draw energy from the sun, the earth, or other cosmic sources. I have occassionally (with permission) drawn energy from other people. I am not sure of the source of the energy which I typically use, whether it is personally generated, collected from the surrounding air, radiated from other people, or from a completely different source. I don't know. That would be a discussion that might be interesting to discuss in the Advanced Board or Debate&Discussion. It's been hashed over many times, but we still don't know the definitive answer.
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Post by The Devil's Advocate on Sept 30, 2006 23:18:19 GMT -5
Newbie board appropriate answer: I draw energy mostly from myself. Being an Empath I can use the energy of the ambient emotion, which (since I don’t live as a hermit in the middle of no where) is usually considerable within my passive range and is just /there/ (ie I do not have to drain anyone to access it, it is being constantly emitted the way light is constantly being emitted from the sun.). I have also used energy from other psions, though /my/ experience with that is typically shredding and absorbing hostile constructs or attacks.
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Post by Fearn on Sept 30, 2006 23:54:58 GMT -5
I have attained enrgy for my shelds psiballs etc. From spiked emotion many times. Mostly it comes from me with a bit from emotions, the empathetic energy doesnt work too well, because it relays the previos emotion to the consrct/sheild (ex. hyper energy spike=hyper consruct). That my take on it.
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Post by The Devil's Advocate on Oct 1, 2006 0:09:35 GMT -5
I've never had that problem Iluveire... Then again all my absorption constructs (usually shields) have security 'programing' in them that strips out programing so they JUST absorb the energy not anything else. This might have an impact on the differing constructs. Though I would like to know how a construct, which has no emotions or brain, can be hyper.
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Post by Fearn on Oct 1, 2006 0:17:53 GMT -5
Its like...it wont stay in one place. Is one is sad they kinda bob. Its just my weird terminology that no one understands sorry.
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Post by The Devil's Advocate on Oct 1, 2006 7:32:45 GMT -5
No worries. This is why we ask questions like 'how can constructs be hyper.' You explain. We know. End of confusion. It would be interesting to look into this phenomenon a little more deeply. ~The Devil's Advocate
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Post by Fearn on Oct 1, 2006 9:10:31 GMT -5
How so?
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Post by The Devil's Advocate on Oct 1, 2006 18:01:52 GMT -5
As an empath, I am very curious how emotion can cause that reaction in construct. And why it causes it in yours rather than mine... Then again, mine rarely are absorbing energy from just one emotion so that could be part of it.
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Post by Fearn on Oct 1, 2006 20:26:47 GMT -5
Well, I have horrible insomnia issues, so as time goes on my consructs are going a little crazy. Like today for instance, my sheild absorbed negative energy all day. I have no idea why it does it, maybe because I get only 6-7 hours of sleep each night. I think its because my sheild isnt getting near eneugh energy from me it has to find other sources. I am taking medication to help me sleep and things are getting better, because my whole world was falling apart. I was moving, grandmama died, learning english, making new friends, constant overload, you know the usuall.
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Post by The Devil's Advocate on Oct 1, 2006 21:52:14 GMT -5
"Only" 6-7 hrs a night? That's a good night's sleep for me. On the rest of it, overload on life always is painful But a nit picky detail question for you: How do you know your shields were absorbing negative energy from external sources, rather than being affected by your mental state?
This is not intended as a slight, but it has to be considered in order to figure out what is actually going on.
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Post by Fearn on Oct 2, 2006 12:13:12 GMT -5
When I walked around people today they started feeling happy, and my sheild was a bit stronger. By negative I meant negative feeling. Like sad, mad, depressed etc.
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