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Post by ultimarage on Jan 25, 2007 19:24:20 GMT -5
....get past it.
So, it's basically your mind over-processing the information you've gathered, giving you false results, on, for now we'll use scanning.
Is is prevailent? You know, experienced often? If so, what kind of people experience it?
There's got to be some people who are in-tune with their psi-sense, that are able to get past it. I might be one of them, but it's too early to make that assumption before exploring this in-depth.
You'd think that after a certain point, after excelling in using your psi-senses (expanding awareness, RP, scanning), you'd learn how to get past it automatically, like it's part of the practice.
What do you think? I, myself probably don't have enough experience on using my psi-senses to draw a comfortable conclusion. Empathy comes quite easily to me, and it helps when I want to calm someone down, or get them to tell me something they're trying to hide.
I've been an Empath for as long as I can remember, but only found out within the last couple of years. I don't believe AOL is hindering my empathetic ability, but when it comes to the others, it could cause a roadblock.
If I learn about it now and learn how to deal with it, I can better advance myself in the other areas that could be related, and that I want to learn, i.e., Telepathy, RP, expanding awareness, and it may be hindering my scanning.
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Post by The Devil's Advocate on Jan 25, 2007 21:29:13 GMT -5
A few term specifications, since this is the DEBATE and discussion forum. I am going to treat it as such. RP Do you mean Remote Projection, Remote Perception (more commonly called Remote Viewing as sight is the most frequent sense extended remotely) or something else? On topic You and I seem to have similar backgrounds though from what you have described your passive range seems to be more limited than mine. (Not a bad thing in my mind.) Analytical Overlay can hinder all the things you are listing (assuming RP is the same as Remote Viewing...) Empathy can also hinder it so you will have to learn how to distinguish. It is actually very much less, in my experience, of 'getting past' it as learning to identify what is psionic and what is logic (conscious or instinctive.) Remote Viewing I am not skilled enough at to verify what is and is not analytical overlay, though I am starting to. A great deal of identifying it is making note of the details of what you get, and, subjective as it is, the 'feels' of what you're doing, then following through to see if you were right or wrong. In my case I am more likely to assume Analytical overlay than I am to assume I correctly remote viewed on someone or some place. For remote viewing I will usually double check Empathically, since, for me, the differences between Analytical overlay and the real thing are much more marked. I typically tend to 'remote view' people as being where I think they should be based on a known schedule. When comparing notes later, I usually have most of the details wrong. Which lends me to believe these are 99% analytical overlay. Note on Remote Viewing: I do not advocate randomly remote viewing on people. I am usually doing so with people I am looking for because I either have arranged to meet with them and wish to see where they are in relation to where we are going to meet, especially if I'm early. And I never do so when I even think they might be in a location that may be sensitive. There are Ethics involved that are not the realm of this thread, I just wanted to make it clear I am NOT advocating spying on people. Scanning: I have logiced myself into many mistakes because I did not trust my perceptions. Miss Identifying who was causing what effects, Analytical Overlay becomes more of a problem the more detail you get, and frankly is as dangerous in the intermediate levels when you stop worrying about it as much, so don't necessarily notice when it comes into play. It is very hard to tell where Analytical Overlay plays a part in precognition. Especially since it is possible to CHANGE the outcomes of the event seen. Fun with paradoxes. ~The Devil's Advocate
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Post by ultimarage on Jan 25, 2007 22:06:04 GMT -5
With RP, I meant the one where you can extend any one, or all, of your 5 basic senses to sense a location you choose, lets say a mall. You'd see what was going on, hear, basically it'd seem like you're there. Remote Presence, I guess.
I doubt I'll gain enough interest in Remote Viewing to do that at all, but who knows, time changes us all as well as our experiences.
Anyways, I've never had a false reading with Empathy. It's always helped me know the right thing to say next, most of the time. I guess I should ask people about it more maybe.
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Post by The Devil's Advocate on Jan 25, 2007 22:31:58 GMT -5
A variation on Remote Viewing then. Thank you for the Clarification. Remote Viewing might be a very good start to your other goal. If you've established your reliability with Empathy start using that to cross reference other things you do. It should be able to give you clues as to what is and is not Analytical Overlay so you can recognize the symptoms and signs of a valid reception of psionic data and how they differe from Analytical overlay. Unfortunately they tend to varry to some degree... or I'm inclined to say we haven't found where the key similarities lie. (But that last is my personal opinion.) ~The Devil's Advocate
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