neveza
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Post by neveza on Sept 29, 2006 18:54:42 GMT -5
What do you guys think? I think it'd be possible in theory (of PK), but would obviously depend on one skill, although I really doubt one could do something equivlant to a improbability drive from the Hitchhicker's Guide to the Galaxy. I'm really interested in your opinions on it. I mean, I understand we can bend probablity to a extent but where is the limit? I also fear that too much bending of probablity might cause problems, something like a rip in Time and Space. (hahah, well, just a crazy example that I doubt would happen at all)
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Post by The Devil's Advocate on Sept 30, 2006 23:46:09 GMT -5
I think probably not. The problem with the 'bending probability' experiments is this: Are you actually changing what happens? Or are you simply accurately predicting it? That is, is it micro PK or is it precognition? And how do you definitively tell if it's one or the other? Can you even tentatively tell? Currently dice manipulation is the maximum even supposed extent of this particular phenomenon. I am inclined to say that no, altering probability isn’t plausible to any great extent, simply due to the nature of probability. What other factors are being missed when Psionics enters the equation? What does that do to the probability integral we all call the bell curve. What is the probability that psionics is actually altering probability not predicting probability? It’s iffy at best, and will probably remain so until well after we are dead.
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PS We could, of course, always consult the super intellegent shade of the color blue...
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neveza
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Post by neveza on Oct 1, 2006 8:34:26 GMT -5
Maybe there is a connection with precognition and Micro-PK.
The only way to know if you're changing probability if you can tally the normal randomization and do some math to produce the probablity, then work with Mirco-PK and then do the same process and see where the probablity is then. I do understand, that's a bit difficult when other probable factors come in. I suppose it'll be a undefinate answer, unless some scientist discover something.
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Post by The Devil's Advocate on Oct 1, 2006 17:51:31 GMT -5
Again I doubt it beyond they are both psionic. I am a reasonably strong natural precognative. I cannot do TK of any form as of yet. There are ways to perform such an experiment, get someone like me who has no ability with TK currently for your Precog subject... the hard part is isolating someone who can do this and we can prove is NOT precognative. And frankly the 'normal randomization' is a limit on an integral I would rather not do. Calculus is not my friend... Statistics based on calculus are quite evil. Though 'normal randomization' is also called the Bell Curve. That is where they get that evil little chart that tortures college students the world over. Probability and statistics of occurances are based on variations on that individual integral (I will have to ask my calculus professor what the integral actually IS before I can post it here. I didn't write it down the one time he put it on the board as a trivia piece.)
The mechanics between PK and precognition are different. PK/TK is moving things, in the case of micropk you are, theoretically, moving molecules to get the answer you want. Precognition is more akin to remote viewing and the other perceptive psionic abilities, and actually is, in many ways, the most passive. It directly affects nothing unless you act upon it. See the issue? Yes, it will probably be unresolved for some time though there are possibilities. It is a fun problem to gnaw at, though.
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