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Post by cbad on Oct 10, 2007 23:49:54 GMT -5
Hi, it's me. Shamefully, I have neglected psi completely for the last couple of weeks to play halo 3 . However, I plan on picking it back up again and scheduling a regular time to practice everyday. I have a question (I guess two). When you make a construct, you can feel the psi in between your hands. If you were to leave that construct there, would you or anyone else be able to feel it just by walking up to it or touching it? Would others feel it differently because their brains interpret psi differently? If you can't, how do you scan? I want to start making lasting constructs eventually and I need to know if they stayed there or if they just dispersed. Any help would be great!
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Respected Member I will deflate your theories and claims with ye olde pointy stick of logic.
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Post by The Devil's Advocate on Oct 11, 2007 8:02:03 GMT -5
In order.
1) It would depend on the person and how well you programmed the psiball to stay together. (If it falls apart before they get there they don't have a chance to feel it.) I've not done this exact experiment, but I have sent psiballs and other constructs to people for them to scan and see what information they could gather from them, and had them send me constructs for the same.
2) Sometimes. It depends. There are many similarities in descriptions, common threads if you will that imply that we are all sensing the same thing, but finding different ways of 'describing' it. If they're still at the stage of 'description is how I am perceiving it' then, yes, they'd perceive it differently. If they are simply creating analogies for what they perceive because our language lacks terminology for psionic senses, then no, they would just describe it differently.
3) Scanning is a sense in and of itself. Though it can take time for some to differentiate between even internal 'description' and what they're actually perceiving. I've gone over how I scan a few times, and it's gotten to the point where I just DO it most of the time, but an initial method that helped me and seems to have helped some (mileage may vary, void where prohibited). Close your eyes. Listen very, very, very intensely. Try and pick up every single sound you possibly can. Now, take that conversation and instead of trying to pick up on auditory data, shift your focus to psi. Make note of the results.
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Post by symphonyx on Oct 24, 2007 7:10:32 GMT -5
3) Scanning is a sense in and of itself. Though it can take time for some to differentiate between even internal 'description' and what they're actually perceiving. I've gone over how I scan a few times, and it's gotten to the point where I just DO it most of the time, but an initial method that helped me and seems to have helped some (mileage may vary, void where prohibited). Close your eyes. Listen very, very, very intensely. Try and pick up every single sound you possibly can. Now, take that conversation and instead of trying to pick up on auditory data, shift your focus to psi. Make note of the results. ~The Devil's Advocate That's it? I just do that and it's the closest training to learn scanning? So I essentially train my five senses to perceive better to be able to do those 'psionic scans'? @ cbad Lucky you. My Xbox 360 broke this June. Damn Microsoft. I'll get another one next year though. Can't wait for the 'Jasper' units. I heard the 'Falcon' revision still overheats.
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The Devil's Advocate
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Respected Member I will deflate your theories and claims with ye olde pointy stick of logic.
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Post by The Devil's Advocate on Oct 24, 2007 9:20:50 GMT -5
No. That wasn't quite the point I was trying to make. You take the concentration and MINDSET of perception and attention to sensory detail and use that mind set to observe Psi instead. You cannot see, hear, feel, taste, or smell Psi. But you can use the same techniques that make you visually or auditorily observant, and apply that to the sense of Psi.
It is NOT instantaneous. It takes practice to get to the point where you recognize input from a scan or from 'psionic awareness' and can differentiate it from other sensory data. But "just do it" isn't useful. This particular technique worked very well for me, when I was first trying to figure out how to scan consciously, and has worked for some others as well. You're not training your ears. You're just getting into the 'pay attention to everything' state of mind, and then focusing it down to paying attention to one set of input: Psi.
~The Devil's Advocate
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