The Devil's Advocate
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Post by The Devil's Advocate on Jun 28, 2007 12:41:39 GMT -5
1) You won't see it visually unless you deliberately flare it. You should be able to scan it whenever you feel like it.
2) The separate process to make a psiball physically visible is called 'flaring'. Stony has an article on it in the articles section.
3) Basically, either a unified concept that embodies the program or a step by step set of instructions you hold in your mind as you're making it.
4) Yes, but it's hard to get it to ballance out right, and usually isn't a very efficient conversion.
~The Devil's Advocate
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Post by wolfdancer on Jun 28, 2007 13:20:57 GMT -5
If shelled properly it shouldn't loose energy that quickly. Unless you are planning on keeping it around for weeks, months, or years. See Cullen's class logs in the Genera BS section for details (that's at least one source on it)....Should be in the first log.
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Post by ansib on Jul 6, 2007 10:37:39 GMT -5
I got a problem making psi balls myself i've been in on work experience (Uk thing) and i've sat down and made a psi wheel and it moved without me trying (Heat from hands of a gently breeze i assume) i had covered it in a glass and it couldn't move. And i start to visualise the same thing that i do with making a psi ball but none of them work. This is what i visualise: 1. I imagine energy flowing from the earths core but at the same time its happening, i say what happens in my head, So i say something like " Yes, The energy moves from the Core to my feet" stuff like that in my head. I cant seem to shut up and just visualise it. 2. Once that happens i get a tingling sence in my feet , i dont know whether that is mean't to happen or not and as i try to visualise it moving up the tingling goes and once i get to my chest i dont get any sort of feeling making it into a energy ball and then eventually i visualise it entering my hands and i think of it coming out from my hands and into a blue energy ball. But from all that i get nothing. Can anyone help me? I have practised this for a few days now. But im struggling to keep my visualisation in a flow its like im skipping small parts of it from time to time. Does anyone have any suggestions? ~Ansib
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Post by confuded on Jul 6, 2007 12:31:53 GMT -5
I know your problem , there is no such thing as "getting energy from earth" or other objects that do not produce Psi. There is such a thing called "grounding", but that is the opposote, giving off energy from the ground. Why dont you try again and make a Psi ball using your own energy .
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Post by wolfdancer on Jul 6, 2007 13:05:28 GMT -5
Thank you ansib for a very nice clear post. I will try to respond more later if one of our other members hasn't had the opportunity to respond in the next few hours. I want to be able to think clearly without the distractions of work. ~Wolfdancer
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Post by ansib on Jul 6, 2007 13:10:05 GMT -5
Why dont you try again and make a Psi ball using your own energy . Ahh, ok then could you tell me a way i could visualise it because i have problems visualising stuff without missing details in it, and plus isn't using your own energy going to make you tired?, and is that 'tired' like your completely drained or its tired like you feel sleepy?. And as this is my first time doing it in a LONG TIME, because i haven't done this kinda stuff ever. Im gonna need help. Anyways thanks for telling me that Also i tend to get headaches Since i've just started practising. I dont know whether that is supposed to happen or im either over doing it ~Ansib
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Post by innerfire on Jul 6, 2007 15:46:45 GMT -5
Why dont you try again and make a Psi ball using your own energy . Ahh, ok then could you tell me a way i could visualise it because i have problems visualising stuff without missing details in it, and plus isn't using your own energy going to make you tired?, and is that 'tired' like your completely drained or its tired like you feel sleepy?. And as this is my first time doing it in a LONG TIME, because i haven't done this kinda stuff ever. Im gonna need help. Anyways thanks for telling me that Also i tend to get headaches Since i've just started practising. I dont know whether that is supposed to happen or im either over doing it ~Ansib The headache part is overdoing it, while not all people have this issue some new people start out with a very low capacity for psychic activity, so its always good to be mindful of whatever your limits are. Eventually they'll go up but until then you won't be able to do heavy amounts of stuff. The visualization part is just practice really. Start out with fairly simple things to form together and slowly work your way up, eventually you shouldn't have any issues.
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Post by ansib on Jul 7, 2007 10:09:56 GMT -5
I tried it last night and i got this tingling feeling all over my body from my feet to my shoulders, and i had visualised a blue energy ball pouring from my hands and then yet nothing happened. Is there something im skipping or missing out?
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Post by innerfire on Jul 7, 2007 11:13:35 GMT -5
That feeling could have been a number of things, so there's not enough for me to go on from that. Unfortunately not much for me to say besides keep trying.
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The Devil's Advocate
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Post by The Devil's Advocate on Jul 7, 2007 19:47:00 GMT -5
Confuded? I'm not seeing anything in this thread that would spark that kind of commentary after anasib's first post.
Anasib, you might also want to work on your ability to detect psi. It is eminently possible you have created a Psiball and simply do not know it yet. You are not going to get an outpouring of bright energy that you can see with the naked eye. You are not going to get little glowing spheres floating around your room. Keep an eye out for subtle signs and work on observing Psi (scanning).
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Post by ansib on Jul 8, 2007 11:03:18 GMT -5
Oh okay, thanks for telling me that. But can you direct me to some steps on how to scan because im really not sure. Need to also get into the habit into practising more because im dropping my practise day by day. And btw you've spelt my name wrong, you had added another a DA. And thanks for the advice. ~Ansib
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The Devil's Advocate
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Respected Member I will deflate your theories and claims with ye olde pointy stick of logic.
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Post by The Devil's Advocate on Jul 8, 2007 19:44:54 GMT -5
I'll give you may basic run down of scanning (it's in about 4 other places on the forums. If you poke around on old threads you'll probably find it.)
Step one (needed only until you get a 'feel' for how scanning works): Listen very intently to your surroundings. Close your eyes if it helps. Try and pick up every detail you can.
Step two: Take note of the mental state of 'listening' that you are in.
Step three: Shift your focus from auditory details to psionic details. Keep the same 'feel' of intense 'listening' only you are no longer paying attention sound. Only psi.
You can repeat the above with objects, people, or specific places you want to scan, picking up details about them in much the same way you would carefully observe someone to pick out every detail of appearance and clothing, or would listen very intently to hear a single person speak in a crowded, noisy room. As you get a 'feel' for what psi is like, you will find your awareness of it on a passive level increasing as well. You won't have to look or 'listen' as hard to pick up detail.
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Post by ansib on Jul 9, 2007 2:18:36 GMT -5
I will try scanning later on after i get from my work experience, Also on a good note, i tried to make a psi ball. From the articles and i think it was a success. Flow'd the energy to my hand and they were both contracting. It was a very small psi ball though and i hadn't properly asked it to stay in a shape of a sphere i think. But i know i had finally got psi to get into my hand *Cookies For Me* Anyways i was just wondering that has anyone had wet hands after making psi balls. Not like sweat but like cold water from their hands because thats what happened to me after i stopped practising (Headache)
~Ansib
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Post by legatosama312 on Jul 16, 2007 16:58:28 GMT -5
this sounds very odd? Maybe a natural hyrokinetic lol.
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The Devil's Advocate
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Post by The Devil's Advocate on Jul 16, 2007 23:33:03 GMT -5
More likely condensation or sweat unnoticed. Some people report 'cold' or 'hot' psiballs, while it's not common that the temperature change be this dramatic it is, theoretically, possible.
~The Devil's Advocate
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