Construct with a personality

[seraphy]

I made a construct with a personality, thought pattern and all (basically it has a mind of it's own). It acts like a normal living thing and talks to me through thoughts. Now, all I need to figure out is how I did it... I was messing around with different ideas for constructs and it just kinda happened, anyone got any thoughts on the matter?

[confuded]

You mean you made, accidentally, AI (artificial intelligence)?

[seraphy]

yeah, don't ask me how because I have no clue how I did, I was just messing around with the idea and it happened. I tried to make a construct like that and thought I messed up and next thing I know I kept getting thoughts that were just unexpected I guess you could say and started to find that they weren't my own thoughts and found I had actually made a construct that can think all on it's own. It tends to just venture around randomly for some reason, and it won't tell me why, and it talks to me from time to time asking me questions or commenting on how I do some really idiotic things sometimes

[confuded]

Hmm... First make sure it's not your imaginary friend, but a construct made out of psi. lol

A few questions: 1. Where does it get energy from?
2. Do you know Telepathy?
3. Do you even control it?!
4. By saying mind of it's own, you mean A.I.?
5. IT has a consciousness and sub-con.?

[slifar]

I did something similar once through some very complex textual programming commands lol. It got smarter the longer it was "alive," I think it's controlled by your Sub-C or something, but for all I know it could develop a mind of it's own. I can answer all of Confuded's questions too ^_^

1. I told it to get it's energy it needed from me. It still ran out eventually, though, and just vanished.
2. No, but I couldn't talk to mine, although I would get emotions from it when it brushed against me
3. Yes, I could control mine, but it didn't quite feel like the total domination thing like with moving a psiball.
4. Sorta. after I made it it spent about an hour or so just flying in circles in my front hallway till I got annoyed and made it stay in one spot in my room. Eventually it started to do what seemed to be examining things, and would send flashes of emotions whenever it brushed up against me. It never spoke or anything though, and seemed slightly smarter than a cat, but not as smart as a human, when I last checked on it.
5. I'm not good enough to check for stuff like that yet, so I don't know.

So in my opinion, I think making a construct that could think is possible, it's probably just your Sub-C playing the part, but even then this could become a great way for communicating with your sub-c and helping develop psionic abilities. Then again, when you look at the advanced programming method that involves looking at the thought patterns and changing them, it does seem possible that you could make a construct that has somewhat of a mind. However, you might want to get someone better at scanning to check something like this out, since all I can do is tell where and what shape the psi is, I can't look into it like other people can...... Not yet anyways.

[confuded]

When you speak of textures it always reminds me of that green code which Neo sees (the world) in Matrix . Lol Soon we are all going to see the world in Psi code lol. jk

I have no idea what to say to you... You need someone experienced... Like DA, inerfire, wolfdancer etc.. Not me sorry, I can't even scan properly . As it says under my avatar: Theory! I like!

[innerfire]

confuded said:

When you speak of textures it always reminds me of that green code which Neo sees (the world) in Matrix . Lol Soon we are all going to see the world in Psi code lol. jk

I have no idea what to say to you... You need someone experienced... Like DA, inerfire, wolfdancer etc.. Not me sorry, I can't even scan properly . As it says under my avatar: Theory! I like!

I'm skeptical as all of the mentioned effects could be generated from imagination, biofeedback, or old-fashioned insanity. This would definetely have to be something confirmed from a scan given my unfamiliarity with either seraphy or slifar and the magnitude of what was claimed to be accomplished.

[seraphy]

confuded said:

Hmm... First make sure it's not your imaginary friend, but a construct made out of psi. lol

A few questions: 1. Where does it get energy from?
2. Do you know Telepathy?
3. Do you even control it?!
4. By saying mind of it's own, you mean A.I.?
5. IT has a consciousness and sub-con.?

It get's energy from me

Yes I know telepathy, it was the first thing I learned to do when I found out about ESP

I have control over it, because it relies on me for energy and it realizes this, most of the reason why it gets mad at me for doing idiotic things, it doesn't want me to die

Yes I guess I would mean A.I.

and I'm not sure about a consciousness or sub-conscious, but it acts like it has a consciousness

It actually thinks alot and it even gave itself a name, though I'm not sure why, and it gets mad at me for not refferring to it by it's name and it's actually getting mad at me right now for saying "it" so many times in this post. When I say it gets mad at me it usually does something to annoy me or it's even gone to such lengths as to keep me up at night. My friends have talked to it too and wonder why I don't just get rid of it, but I honestly think it's fun to have around, keeps things interesting. Also, I've had it around for quite a few months now, almost a year I think

[confuded]

I am starting to believe innerfire. It was the first thing I thought, imagination. Then I tried to see if this was 1000% not your imagination. Now, I think someone else has to scan your... eee... your... "construct"...

[seraphy]

I don't think I'm insane... I know I can't really prove it myself considering how unskilled I am with contructs and psiballs for that matter, but I've already said that I'm not sure how I came upon creating something of such magnitude in the first place especially since I was just messing around with it as a joke in the first place, that's why I consider this an accident and a good reason why I can't prove it, I'm not even sure if I believe it myself, but if I could get someone to scan it then that would help

[confuded]

So go like on PSC forums and ask someone to scan... Also, it might not be you but someone else playing a joke on you or something... I doubt that....

[seraphy]

I kinda hope the construct's real because it's a really interesting concept I think

[confuded]

It is interesting, IF it is real... So have you got it scanned?

[seraphy]

confuded said:

It is interesting, IF it is real... So have you got it scanned?

Not yet, I had to work today and I had alot of problems with my moped... I'll have it scanned soon though

[The Devil's Advocate]

I am not picking up any specially intellegent construct in the general area of you, Seraphy. Caveat: I only did a quick general scan since I don't like doing more without permission. (It is only a little more thorough than the one that typically happens automatically when I'm conversing with someone face to face or over IM.) Seraphy, if you want more detail, please contact me through PM.

A few points of my own:
1) No construct I have scanned has ever been even remotely intellegent.
2) Complex programing can appear to be life like simply because the routines are not fully understood or are detailed enough.
3) They have NEVER had their own signature. All the animals I have scanned have their own signatures. Less complicated than those of a human but there.
4) There is a barrier between "Complex programing" even with imprinted personalities from their maker. (Seen one of those too!) And true life. There seems to be a barrier that can be approached but not broken. (I for one never wish to see that barrier broken. If you want to know why, pick up a few sci fi novels. They deal well with the implications of machine intellegences. A whole new form of slavery.)

Basically I do not see why you should consider the creation of life in this manner to be such a fluffy novelty. If true it comes with a great deal of responsibility. Basically: If you pulled this off? Congradulations! You've got a little psiball kid you have to look after and be responsible for. If it is fully intellegent you have to deal with complicated questions like: do you have the right to control it? If it gets out of hand or you get bored with it do you have the RIGHT to destroy it... in effect killing it? Psionic murder.

I think it highly unlikely that you've actually created life, more likely you have created a construct that acts more lifelike than others and your mind has filled in the gaps. It bears investigation. I would not be announcing any kind of success. If you're not skilled enough to do detailed scans of people, then you're probably not skilled enough to create this kind of construct. I've not met anyone who is.

~The Devil's Advocate