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Post by EMKid90 on Apr 22, 2007 20:16:51 GMT -5
Thanks for your concern, but lets say it did magically make it so that I could do TK, and I was reliant on it to keep up that skill, then I still would have skipped quite a bit of training (not saying I'm lazy but it does balance itself out then in a way .
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Post by The Devil's Advocate on Apr 22, 2007 22:09:17 GMT -5
Would you have? Would you be able to progress BEYOND what the specific instructions gave you if you became reliant upon it? My guess would be no. You wouldn't get any BETTER. You'd just stay at the 'six easy lessons' level ad infinitum. After a while the people who did it the slow way would pass you up and you wouldn't have any recourse or background to improve yourself on your own. That is the danger of short cuts. There are times when you need the grounding you get WITHOUT them to go on to the next step.
~The Devils Advocate
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Post by EMKid90 on Apr 23, 2007 15:10:18 GMT -5
Yes I understand what you mean, however I don't think the tape is/will take any effect negative or positive anyway. And if it is negative in the way that I become reliant and stuck at a certain level of TK, so be it. I'm sure I could become independent again anyway, as it says to listen to the tape three times a week to stay programmed;so you would just stop listening to it.
p.s. If it does work positively I'd stop listening anyway as I'd rather teach myself than have Richard Sutphen tell me what to do with TK. I'm mainly doing this "experiment" just to see Leeks credibility and if hypnosis does work to teach TK.
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Post by wolfdancer on Apr 23, 2007 15:31:34 GMT -5
lol. Psinewbie---sounds like a plan and worthwhile experiment. How many times have you listened to it thus far. Any results, yet?
~Wolfd@ncer, who has listened to part of the audiobook just for information's sake and curiosity.
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Post by EMKid90 on Apr 23, 2007 17:48:49 GMT -5
3 times in the last 4 days which is when i downloaded it. Again tonight i will. Also forgot to post newest results from last night: Didn't use TK or anything but I did feel...different. Felt VERY heavy and relaxed. By heavy I mean like I had no feeling over my body. It felt like I was asleep/unconscious but conscious at the same time so this may be the "altered state" Dick Sutphen is attempting to hypnotize his listeners into. Even if it is I didn't move anything but I will set up lighter objects tonight. (last night I first attempted to move my watch while in the "altered state" and then couldn't see anything lighter as I had forgot to set up a pencil anywhere and just fiddled the rest of that part of the tape away by trying to turn my light on which I thought would be easier than the watch as its the movement of a switch
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Post by EMKid90 on Apr 24, 2007 13:15:07 GMT -5
Last night the results where pretty much the same but I felt much I guess you would say "deeper". I expect if it does work, than something more significant should happen on/by the weekend.
I'll keep everyone posted.
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Post by Leek on Apr 26, 2007 19:08:09 GMT -5
Yay! PsiNewbie, glad your trying something rather than being brainwashed! :] I'll MSN you later on today, and I'm glad that everything is working for you /shun's non beleivers
[glow=red,2,300]DA, leave the thread. You're just trying to stop people from developing TK because you're 'part of the goverment' and 'trying to stop bulletholes' Just because he's doing what you don't want him to do doesn't mean you can nag like a 40 year old mom who hates his son [/glow]
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