Stratokinesis(atmokinesis)

[pyro]

I will here explain how to perform STRATOKINESIS(thunder in background). This is the ability to create a storm with your mind. I have done this before and it, surprisingly, is not very hard. First of all, you must be in a quite area with no distractions. Start focusing on making a psi ball, but make it about as big as a beach ball. Take about half an hour to make it. Imagine this psi ball high up in the sky, surrounded by clouds. See the type of storm you want to make surrounding it and going faster and faster(like if you want a thunderstorm, imagine lots of lightning and big booms around it). Visualize then the huge mass of cloud around it starting to move towards its destination. It should take about three days to a couple of weeks to get there. I am studying a way to make storms go away, and there should be a new thread on this soon enough.

P.S. you can also make it rain or hail or whatever if there is already a storm somewhere.
P.S.S. try first making a storm come near your town or city.
P.S.S.S don't try making another hurricane Katrina on your first try ;D.

Pyro

[wolfdancer]

FIRST: Read the forums! You sound like an idiot coming in here talking about "stratokinesis" when there is a stickied thread entitled "This isn't make your own Kinesis (2)." I'm sorry. I'm just sick of it. It is all varying types of telekines/psychokinesis. That is how it will be dealt with and discussed on this site.

SECOND: How are you verifying that the storm is the result of what you did? You have provided no evidence or explanation that this is actually psionic and not mere coincidence. The time frame you gave is likely to contain a storm through natural causes no matter what you've done.

THIRD: I strongly reccomend not messing with the weather. It does not sound like you have thought throught the consequences of such actions. This is not a child's game. What you do effects a much much larger area than your hometown or even state. Think about that. The results may be positive in your area, but be resulting in a drought 500 miles away. I'm sorry, but this is not responsible nor wise in any way, shape, or form.

FOURTH: Now, I would reccomend you familiarize your self with this site. Read some posts, especially if they are stickied (they were posted there for good reason), and check out the articles. Make sure you understand what you are talking about before plunging in here and essentially attempting to 'teach' us how to do something. You are not an authorized teacher nor authorized to use these forums for that purpose. You are welcome to share your experience or the techniques you use. You may not teach. ----- Not to mention the fact that your post sounds more like you are about to write an article rather than posting something in a discussion forum.

~Wolfd@ncer~

[The Devil's Advocate]

Ditto everything Wolf said.

On top of that here is MY warning for you. Wolf covered this one. I won't be nearly as nice to you. I recommend you do a great deal of research into the weather BEFORE you start talking about messing with storms again. I will tear you apart point by point. And I can guarantee I won't be the only one. This IS your friendly warning. Be careful what you say, You're going to be asked to back yourself up. GOING to. Not might.

~The Devil's Advocate

[pyro]

FIRST: Ive done this many times before, and exactly the kind of storm I wanted to make came. Once it was very hot and dry outside for a few weeks, and there was almost NO CHANCE that it would rain. Guess what? I made it rain.

SECOND: You think I haven't considered that? That would be like learning pyrokinesis, going into a field in the middle of Kansas, and practicing it. You seem to think I am unbalancing nature. I am simply studying and aquiring results in a non-destructive manner. There was an area that was pretty dry once, so I made it rain there. Its not like im making tornados. If humans learned to control this power, think of how great the results would be if these abilities were given to a responsible person.

THIRD: Sorry, but I personally think thats kind of funny that you think i might not know what im talking about. I have had many experiences with this. I am explaining the technique that i use to do this, and sharing it with other people. I am not personally guiding people through what they should do. Im explaining HOW to do it if they WANT to do it.

P.S. psst, guess what, I didn't invent this, so therefore, I didn't make my own kinesis.

[wolfdancer]

You do not have to do more than make it rain in one area when it should be raining in another to be destructive. You may not even be able to see the consequences from where you are. I doubt you have access to the high-tech weather equipment or data that would be necessary to monitor these results. Guess what, I do.

On the fact that you "didn't make your own kinesis": read the thread. I don't care if others have done it or have used that term. We don't here.

Also, keep in mind that the amount of energy you generate in a half-hour may not be the same as others. Also, please explain why what you describe is only possible with an indeterminate delay.

Yes, I know others have done this. I have had detailed discussions with some of them. Those I've talked with actually understand the science behind what they are doing and have acknowledged when they made mistakes. They have also acknowledged when it was beneficial. I had the discussion about the dangers and they listened and showed me how they were accounting for those.

Another thing to consider is that you are passing this off as "not that hard to do" and making it sound like something a begininer could play around with. That is not my idea of it being in the hands of a responsible person.
Also, we don't give out these abilities nor advocate shutting them down in people that have developed psionic skills whether through training or nature. In order to keep this in the hands of "a responsible person" you would have to do that. Stories have been written that consider what is likely to happen if this came in to play. The results are frightening. I've been "shut down" for a brief period and can see where that would lead if it were long-term or permanent. No, I will not advocate that for any ability.

~Wolfd@ncer~

[NightHawk]

I agree with Wolf and DA,

- Where did you find that, if you were not the one who invented that? Is it backed up?
-Change nature.... or leave it as it is, for safety? (well you don't want a thunder striking at you just because you were playing, right?
- Not all people are responsible right? I mean even if you're doing it in "non-destructive manner", what if a person comes along and does it in destructive manner?
It's just like the story of Nobel and the explosives he invented.
(It's like "I gave him the gun, but I didn't tell him to shoot with it." )
- Therefore, you should think more than once in giving people very serious techniques like this one.
- Have a look in the forum as Wolfdancer said, and try inventing simple and safe things after that; just as I came up with a new idea: drawing with psi on mirrors. So it doesn't mean that you are not allowed to invent new things

Sorry for my english..... Modified due to grammar mistakes.

[The Devil's Advocate]

Frankly, Pyro, you have categorically DEMONSTRATED you don't have a clue what you're talking about. Do you have any idea of the energy driving the weather systems and patterns you're talking about? Do you have any clue about global and local climate and what can and does affect it? Obviously not. Talk to an experienced meteorologist. Oh, but that would be too logical wouldn't it? Weather patterns are so complicated that we cannot predict, with any great degree of accuracy, how they're going to change more than a week or so out. And that is just for MAJOR storm cells (and is still not a high degree of accuracy in many cases.) Sorry I hate to break it to you, you're probably just deluding yourself that you can in any way accurately impact the weather.

Currently there is a certain amount of moisture in the air, globally. That moisture is impacted by global air currents at various stratospheric levels. If you bring moisture into your area it has to come FROM somewhere, and that isn't necessarily an area that is currently over-abundant in moisture. Which you've implied very well that you've never even thought of, so you could very easily be causing or prolonging a drought in a region, presuming you've actually manipulated anything weather wise and are not just deluding yourself. A responsible person would not mess with the weather until we have a MUCH better understanding of the global and local variations in the system and what changes them.

If you want to convince us you're doing a poor job of it. Thus far you have demonstrated yourself to be short sighted, self-centered, callous ('I can't be doing any harm because I didn't destroy a house!'), Arrogant ('Hah! I didn't make it up on my own! so there!'), and utterly disrespectful. Just because you didn't smash a house with a tornado, doesn't mean you came close to proving your point or were NOT doing harm if you actually pulled off what you seem to think you did, see my arguments in the previous paragraph.

Oh, on the linguist side: Strato would be wrong because "Stratokinesis" would mean "Moving Layers". Air is not the only thing with layers. Rocks have layers. Onions have layers... Ogres have layers. to move the layer you have to move the constituent parts. Telekinesis.

Atmokinesis is only marginally more accurate. Atmo means 'vapor', and while you are moving the vapors in the air, you are still moving physical matter, which means it's still Telekinesis or Psychokinesis. It is insufficient to replace Telekinesis. You'd have to explain what you were doing ANYWAY. So quit using words that are superfluous, redundant, and obfuscatory.

~The Devil's Advocate

Eschew sesquipedalian obfuscation, it represses apprehensible articulation and confounds discernment. (Yes, I know how hard that is to follow.)

[Stony1205]

Man, you guys always take the good threads!

But on the actual topic, pyro, it is against the rules to create outright lies. The human body does not possess enough potential energy to change much of anything, especially with the technique that you speak of. It is possible, but only with the proper understanding of the science behind it. I understand you need to want to teach and feel important, but making up outlandish tales isn't the way to do it.

Also, if you read our Policies and Procedures, you are not allowed to use PsiOnline Forums as a media to teach your own techniques without proper approval from a mod first. This goes a bit beyond "giving a tip", as you're preseting a "new" and pretty far out idea, and this was not approved.

In accordinance with the PAP with states:

4:11 - Teaching
No members may use PsiOnline or its resources to run their own classes or seminars. Helping others is what the site was created to do, but members may not become full fledged teachers. Offences will result in an edit and warning, up through perm-ban status.

I hereby lock this thread.

~ Stony