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Post by jedikaren on Apr 2, 2007 16:54:30 GMT -5
psiworld.co.nr/Ok I'm going to be front up about it. It's a newbie site. It's full of 13-16 year olds who are brand new to psi. There are some spelling mistakes and typos. I'm not perfect with spelling and a bit lazy. So shoot me. There is also a spiritual section. Note the warning in the bright yellow box. I have a range of links (some need to be undated, like this one). My forum is pretty good, clean, active. I do try to keep qualtity fairly good with other people's articles and I do use mostly my own expriences with my own articles. I'll be the first to say my site isn't the best and maybe deserving a 8 out of 10. But, in defense, the site is two years whole, over 500 members and I get a lot of feedback about how much it helps newbies. I would love some non newbie comments, some suggestions, or ideas. I know some of you aren't going to like the site (you can't please everyone), but I hope a few will.
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Post by gumby on Apr 2, 2007 21:58:56 GMT -5
I dont like it much. I dont know why, but you just dont seem very experienced to me. :-)
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Post by jedikaren on Apr 2, 2007 22:32:36 GMT -5
*shrugs* I have 7 years of exprience.
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Post by symphonyx on Apr 2, 2007 23:13:53 GMT -5
Gumby, that's just outright rude. And where do you base your statement? Just because her site doesn't have members as eloquent as the ones here, and content that's oriented towards newbies doesn't mean she's inexperienced.
And I give kudos to her for being able to put up a decent site and being able to devote her free time to help those who need help; and some, too, who are probably undeserving of it. I remember before in PsiPog, there are a lot of people posting stuff like fighting and Naruto(?)(WTH?). Gumby, I ask you, can you do that?
Anyway, it's nice having you here JediKaren. BTW, how many times have you moved your site? Three? I remember you having PsiWorld hosted by Freewebs and MSN.
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Post by jedikaren on Apr 3, 2007 7:11:12 GMT -5
Yeah I have a non combat rule and try my hardest to stomp down Naruto talk. Usually my members at 13- 18 years old. So you could say that I'm baby sitting young psions. As for the moves, first I was on msn. Then Mat. moved the proboards and to this other site for the main site. Then he dissappeared, so I moved the main site with all the articles to freewebs. Then last winter Apollo paid for an upgrade.
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Post by Requisite on Apr 3, 2007 14:44:44 GMT -5
Seven years of experience means absolutely nothing; you'll find the most qualified psions do not bother even mentioning how many years of experience they have. I would have to side with "gumby" on this one, as I have for years.
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Post by jedikaren on Apr 3, 2007 15:46:12 GMT -5
Ok, let me redefine those 7 years. 4 years of self teaching in which I learned empathy, overloads, some telepathy, remote viewing, precognition, gathering and sending psi, and scanning (although I wasn't aware I was doing it).
Since then I have gone further to each subject while also going to OOBEs, telepathy and remote veiwing games, and some shielding and energy manipulation. I have read all the articles all of the major sites and teached many of these abilities mentioned aboved, to brand new newbies for 3 years, with plenty of good feed back. All my articles (the ones that I wrote) I have taught to people before I started writing them, so I do promise they do work for people, not all, but then again everyone learns a different way.
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Post by The Devil's Advocate on Apr 3, 2007 17:32:18 GMT -5
Tip for THIS site... advocating OBE/Astral anything here is likely to meet poor reception. Read the threads that have come up so far for basics. PM me if you want some specifics from my end.
A cursory examination makes it seem very unprofessional. It reads much more like a Blog or live journal than it does like a detailed website. This can negatively impact how people percieve your website. If you want to be taken seriously by more than the newbies you have, you are going to have to polish the site up quite a bit. I will comment on content if you're interested once I get through reading it.
I have a simlar background to you... save that instead of 4 years of self teaching it was 17. Then Wolf dragged me onto psionline to beat scientific method and logic into people. So as of March I'm at 19 years as an active, practicing psi. (Anyone caring to dispute my experience can take it to D&D. I welcome a good debate.) Experience is valuable, but it is not all there is.
I would be interested in speaking with you about some of your observations. It has been MY observation, that there are constants throughout Psi, though they are usually hidden under the veil of perception and subjective description.
~The Devil's Advocate
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Post by Requisite on Apr 3, 2007 17:45:24 GMT -5
I'm perfectly familiar with your experience, Karen. Again: "Seven years of experience means absolutely nothing; you'll find the most qualified psions do not bother even mentioning how many years of experience they have. I would have to side with "gumby" on this one, as I have for years."
In the case of DA, she has been an extreme natural for an extended period of time, and so in this case, mentioning a time frame can be of use. I have known you for quite some time, however, Karen. I must vehemently state that I "would have to side with 'gumby' on this one, as I have for years." That is my best effort at kindness.
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Post by innerfire on Apr 3, 2007 18:09:26 GMT -5
I'm going to try and not jump into this too much, just one point to say:
On the topic of experience, I haven't looked myself, but if the site is to cater to newbies, does Karen really need to be a master? I mean as long as the material presented does not extend past beginner and intermediate-level stuff it shouldn't be an issue for the most part.
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Post by Requisite on Apr 3, 2007 19:20:12 GMT -5
Some martial artists say that only the master truly understands the nature of a punch, and only the master can actually execute this punch. Shouldn't it be only the master, then, that teaches the punch? He is, after all, the only one who understands it. I make a similar point with Karen, though I do not think you need to be a master at psi to teach it. All in all, my experience with Karen over the years has been less than good.
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Post by TC on Apr 3, 2007 21:47:29 GMT -5
I don't think anyone needs to be a master at psionics to run a psionics site. It isn't always about properly performing psionics. It's about knowing the logistics, methods, mechanics, and just being all-out knowledgeable about the subject you're basing the site on. Ruling out the topic of being computer savy, I'd say that JediKaren has as much an ability as well as a right to try and make a site that tries to harbor fellow practitioners of psionics.
As for the experience level, I'd have to personally disagree with Gumby and Requisite. Terribly sorry, and I definitely respect your thoughts. But I just don't see how anyone can measure experience in years of practicing. For example, someone could say they've been practicing for 34 years if they want, but only practice once or twice each month. But if you have someone who has been practicing almost every day (or even week) for 7-10 consistent years, then I'd have to say that the second person is more experienced than the other person. A simple, yet sufficient contradiction.
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Post by The Devil's Advocate on Apr 3, 2007 22:29:21 GMT -5
Acting my name in all cases.
Observations 1) Requisite has stated he knows JediKaren 2) The website is in the style of a blog. 3) There are spelling and grammar errors.
Implications/Analysis 1) He is basing his opinion off more than her absolute years of experience. He has information we do not necessarily have access to. He seems to be reluctant to give details, that could simply be due to the nature of where the discussion is taking place. 2) This is at best the site of an enthusiastic amateur. 3) As in 2, this detracts from the professionalism and to a degree some of the credibility of the site.
I have not had the opportunity to read through the site in detail so that is what I can give you with a cursory analysis. Requisite has a reason (whether valid or not I do not have enough data to say) for his stated opinion, and that reason goes beyond this conversation. The site seems to have potential, but, at first impression, seems very much on the lines of a ‘fan’ site, rather than something serious. Based on the first page, if I had simply stumbled across this site, I would not have bothered to look beyond that first page.
~The Devil’s Advocate
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Post by confuded on Apr 4, 2007 14:18:27 GMT -5
Heh, how can you talk about spirituality without touching the subject of religion? Because you have an opinion and the support is from a religious book and you can't say which book it is, its religon... You should alow religion in that section to a degree (no acusing others for example that their religion is BS). Iposted it here since my account is not approved yet . Why do you have that system anyways...
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Post by gumby on Apr 4, 2007 14:19:52 GMT -5
I wast trying to be rude or anything..Just I was saying she didnt seem very good to me, and I know, she doesnt have to be.
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