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Post by snowballrox on Aug 3, 2008 14:11:21 GMT -5
Many places say that Psiballs aren't visible, that is has to be sensed, but other people say that it can be visible if you flare it. Which is the right answer?
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Post by innerfire on Aug 3, 2008 16:52:18 GMT -5
Both, it's just that flaring it is a special thing and it takes a construct programmed exactly to do just that, and a lot of energy.
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Post by snowballrox on Aug 3, 2008 16:56:57 GMT -5
How much energy? And how does the energy cost effect it? Aren't people using energy from other sources other than themselves?
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Post by The Devil's Advocate on Aug 4, 2008 2:11:45 GMT -5
Some people use energy from outside themselves. Most people start using their own 'personal store' of psi rather than ambient. Why? Because it's easier. I've never bothered to expend the energy to flare a psiball, so I'm not sure the exact energy drain on it is. It's a high enough threshold that even with the energy available to me it's simply not worth the effort.
Also, even if you're using energy from somewhere else, it requires some of your own to focus that energy. The short term net is a large energy rush but if you have to USE all the energy you can focus, and the energy required TO focus it, you can leave yourself severely drained. If you have to go to that extreme to flare a psiball it's not worth the effort for a pretty cosmetic effect. (My opinion)
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Post by snowballrox on Aug 4, 2008 8:49:15 GMT -5
Oh thank you. How long does flaring last? I read a thread on Psipets a few minutes ago. If you make a psipet that you want to last for a week, can you flare it then and then see it all week? It wouldn't be a waste of energy if it lasts a while? I have the feeling that the longer you want it flared, the more energy it takes.
PS: I'm not saying I have the skills to make a psipet, but I'm just wondering.
PSS: Am I being annoying asking so many questions? If so, what can I do to be less annoying? (Lol, two questions just there!)
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Post by The Devil's Advocate on Aug 4, 2008 19:58:42 GMT -5
Flaring lasts as long as you maintain it. Which means you stop concentrating on it it stops flaring. Maintaining the flare is a continual drain on your energy so the duration is also limited by your psionic endurance.
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Post by snowballrox on Aug 5, 2008 11:22:43 GMT -5
Thanks! The people here are really helpful! I always thought that flaring was a simple thing that kept it visible. If you have alot of spare time, can you use ambient psi to flare it? And can you also program it to constantly use ambient psi to keep it visible? Or is that too much drain on the surroundings?
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Post by The Devil's Advocate on Aug 5, 2008 12:14:37 GMT -5
How much of this are you actually going out and practicing? Have you actually tried to tap ambient energy?
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Post by snowballrox on Aug 5, 2008 12:52:27 GMT -5
I just follow Psipogs example of the Sun, and it seems to workd for me. I still don't know if thats ambient psi or not. If It's not the sun, then where am I getting the energy from?
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Post by The Devil's Advocate on Aug 5, 2008 14:04:06 GMT -5
I"d have to scan you while you were doing it. For the most part people pull from internal first then external sources. The sun the moon whatever are visualizations. Concepts that make it easier for the brain to pull the energy it needs. Why don't you work on your scanning as well then you'll be able to start tracing your own sources. ~The Devil's Advocate
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Post by goliath797 on Aug 6, 2008 22:49:20 GMT -5
DA, to tell the truth, i never really learned how to scan. I just "felt" it's presence. Any detail on how to scan?
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Post by psionicstorm on Aug 7, 2008 18:43:36 GMT -5
Heh i've never really "scanned" at the level of detail that DA does but i just sorta search for the presence based on the feeling i know it should have. Then you can get some basic info, but DA, please do tell how you get more detail about it. is that just a certain level of proficiency in the same skill?
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Post by wolfdancer on Aug 8, 2008 9:23:47 GMT -5
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Post by confuded on Aug 18, 2008 12:07:20 GMT -5
And going back on topic , I would like to add that usually when people had successfully done flaring is in a group. For example a flaring party, like the ones back in the days of PsiPog (they have the log and pictures in the media section if you like). I assume that there were all kinds of people with different levels in the party, but still it was not one person. From here you can very roughly judge how much energy it requires . I do not know enough people who have done flaring personally to compare to the party flaring... ~confuded
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Post by Fearn on Aug 20, 2008 0:27:52 GMT -5
They are doing group flares on Psiworld. I was amazed that they actually went through with it.
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