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Post by confuded92 on Jan 5, 2007 16:36:00 GMT -5
Ok, this argument started in a different post. The question is:
Could you get psi from planets?
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Post by TC on Jan 5, 2007 20:49:30 GMT -5
As I stated in the post in the General Psi section, it would depend on what you define as "drawing energy from a planet". If you're implying that energy actually is being generated by the planet, I wouldn't completely discredit it, though I have my skepticisms about that idea. I'd be more willing to assume that all living creatures may generate psi, than all objects, animate and inanimate.
My reason: Have you ever scanned the Earth? A wall? A rock? If you found nothing, then it's probably void of psi energy. That's my really short version of the whole deal.
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Post by wolfdancer on Jan 6, 2007 17:34:00 GMT -5
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Post by The Devil's Advocate on Jan 6, 2007 19:52:12 GMT -5
I have scanned rocks. Call me crazy, but I was curious and I"m a geology major. Do not ask me to list the rocks I have scanned. Our lab has a vast and varried mineral collection. I have scanned rocks. I have gotten bored, frankly and scanned quite a few things that don't make a great deal of sense. (Rocks, books, elecronic devices, computers, small rodentia, my snakes, my snakes while consuming said small rodentia.)
Rocks do not eminate psi. Rocks do not absorb psi. Rocks are these nice little holes in the whole 'scanning for psi' thing. You can try to stuff rocks full of psi, but it doesn't work too well. The psi doesn't really 'stick' very well unless you deliberately try to force it to stick.
I have scanned a nice crackling fire... nope, same general result. Nice and toasty, but no psi, and much harder to funnel psi into. Attaching psi to air is equally frustrating, and air it self is equally psionically dead. (Try scanning the wind some day it's an interesting experience.)
Unless you think there is some form of matierial utterly unique to the other planets that we know NOTHING about that somehow gives off psi, I think it's safe to say that the planets do NOT and the sun does NOT.
Living things, expecially humans do give off absorbable ambient energy. Most people are constantly screaming their thoughts and emotions at the top of their very limited psychic lungs. That's one thing we absorb when we use 'ambient psionic energy. (It would be like being able to power a city or your house off of the annoying noise of a bussy highway.)
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Post by TC on Jan 6, 2007 20:46:48 GMT -5
DA: I was actually asking people to scan rocks. It was my proof of showing them that it doesn't give off psi. I don't think you're crazy, I've attempted scanning weird stuff too, lightbulbs being one. Electricity came to mind, but my results were negative.
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Post by confuded92 on Jan 6, 2007 21:48:08 GMT -5
Hmmm, so you say that some stuff could hold psi or not, but not produce psi unless its some weird material that we dont know of. Hmm... This thread doesnt really beling id D&D anymore . Maybe ill make a test of objects that could absorb psi and the ones that cant. There is a thread somewhere (general psionic talk i think) which talks about absorbing psi into a ring. So metal could absorb psi thats one. Rocks cant (like DA sad) that`s one for the other group . I have to learn and practice how to properly scan stuff so i cant realy fill any of the groups with objects
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Post by The Devil's Advocate on Jan 6, 2007 22:19:26 GMT -5
Yes, it still belongs in D&D. Metal doesn't absorb psi anymore than rocks do. Like a rock you can put psi in metal, but it doesn't actively absorbe it. Sorry.
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Post by confuded92 on Jan 6, 2007 23:14:07 GMT -5
What does ACTICLY absorb it? Like acept it? I sad metal absorbs/hold-in psi because it was in a different thread in General Psionic Talk. I have no idea myself since i dont know how to scan.
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Post by The Devil's Advocate on Jan 6, 2007 23:22:37 GMT -5
Absorb means to 'soak in like a sponge'. To 'accept' in this case means you can pour it in like you can with a cup. The rock is more like the cup than the sponge. Though in the case of the rock your 'cup of psi' has holes in it so if you don't plug them the psi eventually all runs out of it. If you put a cup, bottom down, in a puddle of water it does not fill up. If you put a sponge in a puddle of water it eventually will.
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Post by R. on Jan 7, 2007 8:14:29 GMT -5
Have you tried scanning any religious symbols? It would be interesting to see if psi can be fed into objects like that...
Hope i'm not getting too close to religion...
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Post by confuded92 on Jan 7, 2007 12:32:47 GMT -5
I cant realy scan anything , I dont realy know what am I doing is a scan. I could scan alot of relegious items. Lets call the artifacts to not get to close to religion , even do they are not realy artifacts. Btw, not to create any new threads... Are there any articles on scaning? I know i have to search myself and I will in 5 hours since I am in school (detention ). Maybe someone knows off top of his head .
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Post by The Devil's Advocate on Jan 7, 2007 18:49:26 GMT -5
I have, it is a... different... feel. I would honestly prefer not to get into more detail on items with individual religious significance or locations of religious significance. It's skirting the line too much for forum talk.
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Post by confuded92 on Jan 7, 2007 22:13:23 GMT -5
Did anyone scan animals? Or a chemical reaction? Maybe a chemical reaction may give off psi somehow . He he, burn some magnesiun (dont forget your sunglasses)
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Post by The Devil's Advocate on Jan 7, 2007 22:18:43 GMT -5
Confuded... you're starting to try my patience. Which chemical reactions would you have me watch? All of them? Are you aware of how many chemical reactions are occuring around you on a day to day basis? Animals respond to psi, but I have not seen anything to indicate they actually generate it. This is getting old. We are not going to get any closer to the source of psi by randomly scanning anything and everything. Odds are we'd trip over the answer and never even realize it because we don't have a clue what we're looking for.
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Post by confuded92 on Jan 7, 2007 23:06:33 GMT -5
You? Why you? I realy didnt mean anyone specific... I realy dont want to try your patience (seriously) Its like puling a triger of a granade in your hand and waiting for it to explode! I will not post anything on this thread anymore (maybe not even in D&D) to end it shortly and not say anything stupid again (and not to pull the triger ). Thanyou for your replies and time that youve on this dum thread.
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