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Jul 11, 2007 3:57:59 GMT -5
Post by Illyrianna on Jul 11, 2007 3:57:59 GMT -5
Hey guys, ive been thinking about flaring constructs for a while and figured out a way to make them visible without using so much effort... I'm not exactly a science wiz, but my logic has served me so far... Anyway what people are doing is that they're forcing a construct to become a source of light (hence we can see it in the dark), so ive been thinking, maybe there is a way to reflect the light or maybe just divert it (refract is the word i think )... Maybe program the surface of the construct to reflect the light, or idk... What do you think?
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Jul 11, 2007 8:40:41 GMT -5
Post by wolfdancer on Jul 11, 2007 8:40:41 GMT -5
I'm not sure if anyone has tried that. It makes sense, though I'm not sure what physics might be involved in the conceptualizing of such an energy construct.
~Wolf
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Jul 11, 2007 11:08:56 GMT -5
Post by drexhex on Jul 11, 2007 11:08:56 GMT -5
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The Devil's Advocate
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Jul 11, 2007 12:15:28 GMT -5
Post by The Devil's Advocate on Jul 11, 2007 12:15:28 GMT -5
Humans have been redirecting and bending light for millenia (prisms being one of the earlier examples.) Manipulation of electromagnetic radiation powers radios, microwave ovens, satellite communications, etc. Due to the dual wave/particle nature of light energy can affect light directly without resorting to Telekinesis. (This is the principle a spectrometer functions under... bombard a set of atoms with energy and record the 'shifts' in light as the electrons fall back from their excited energy stages.)
I'd say it's definitely possible, Illyriana, but I'm not certain how much more or less the energy requirements would be. Worth looking into though!
~The Devil's Advocate
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Flaring
Jul 12, 2007 4:54:30 GMT -5
Post by Illyrianna on Jul 12, 2007 4:54:30 GMT -5
Thats what i was thinking of, maybe a prism construct (unfortunately ive never seen that experiment, so i don't know exactly how to set it up, but at least i know what it does lol), or maybe a lens construct *grins*, it would certainly make ant frying a lot more entertaining for some, although i don't really approve that ... Worth a shot, guess ill have to get off my lazy but for once and do some energy manipulating
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Jul 12, 2007 12:58:07 GMT -5
Post by The Devil's Advocate on Jul 12, 2007 12:58:07 GMT -5
Let us know how it goes!
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Post by lief on Aug 4, 2007 9:58:51 GMT -5
In what i have read i thought it was impossible to reflect light... if it is possible to reflect light using psi then in theory couldnt we create a shield that made us invisible?... I read that creating a shield to make us invisible was impossible... if anyone wants the source i got this from just PM me just saying what I read
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Flaring
Aug 4, 2007 11:01:28 GMT -5
Post by wolfdancer on Aug 4, 2007 11:01:28 GMT -5
Responded in PM. I've not had time to investigate this scientifically yet. ~Wolf
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Aug 4, 2007 13:10:27 GMT -5
Post by lief on Aug 4, 2007 13:10:27 GMT -5
starting to get curious now... i'd try it if i could still working on that psiball though haha...yeah...
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Aug 4, 2007 17:07:46 GMT -5
Post by confuded on Aug 4, 2007 17:07:46 GMT -5
Wait a minute... So can you please make a thread (not to clutter this one) and tell how in theory can you make yourself invisible using a shield? Thanks .
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Aug 4, 2007 19:30:31 GMT -5
Post by innerfire on Aug 4, 2007 19:30:31 GMT -5
Wait a minute... So can you please make a thread (not to clutter this one) and tell how in theory can you make yourself invisible using a shield? Thanks . Well theoretically you'd need to do a lot more than simple reflection of light for invisibility. You'd need to reflect the light of what was directly behind you to your front, and you'd need to do this from every concievable direction. The military has tried to do this mechanically through systems of image projectors and cameras, and even then it was hardly perfect.
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Post by confuded on Aug 5, 2007 0:47:48 GMT -5
I think I saw something like that (picture). A guy standing with on a China (maybe Japan) street being half invisible. The costume showed the back of the street behind him, but it was greenish...
Reflect light? Then how are you going to reflect light through you? I don't get it... You mean bend light around me? That would make the area inside the shield dark! Unless I've got to source of light, but that would take to much energy - bending light and stopping it from going out of my shield!
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Post by dgd on Aug 5, 2007 6:06:11 GMT -5
That is a good point confuded. In theory if light was reflected from you, wouldn't it become dark where there is no light (i.e. inside the shield). But then would you be able to see where you are going? All this thinking makes my head hurt .
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Aug 5, 2007 14:05:18 GMT -5
Post by confuded on Aug 5, 2007 14:05:18 GMT -5
Ha ha ha! So there cant be a tru invisibility shield! Poeple wont see you, but you wont see others too! lol It will be like an invisible blind moving wall! lol ;D
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Aug 5, 2007 20:26:54 GMT -5
Post by The Devil's Advocate on Aug 5, 2007 20:26:54 GMT -5
I'm actually familiar with the picture you're talking about Confuded; however, the technology is rather impractical... They essentially made a coat of directional fiberoptic cables. Theoretically the same thing is possible with psionics; however, since we haven't figured out the exact physical mechanism by which psiballs are flared (conversion between energy forms and exciting electrons to higher energy states so they emit light when they 'fall back' to their resting states, are only two possibilities. Neither one allows for invisibility.) It is actually easier to be 'unnoticed' with Empathy. You simply project a very bland 'impression' essentially the feeling of something not worthy of attention. Most people aren't inclined to pay attention to random folk ANYWAY, so this just nudges them further along, and will not, typically, fool a truly alert individual without use of techniques that fall under combat. It is possible to 'cloak' yourself psionically from others as well so you do not register as strongly on active psionic senses. But I think this is more than a little bit off topic. Feel free to start another thread, probably in General Psionics, Lief.
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