What Constructs are not used for

[The Devil's Advocate]

Continued from another thread.

Lost/Confuded. You're missing the point. Shields are constructs, yes, but nothing else I do involving empathy/telepathy or even TK practice involves constructs at all. You CANNOT program a construct to do TK if you, yourself have no skill with TK. Constructs in my experience are, also, usually LESS effective than the direct method.

Frankly if I want to send you an emotion I am going to do so directly I am not going to make a construct and hit you with it and hope it gets your attention and does what I want it to do. I do not need a construct to scan. I do not need a construct to pick up on the emotions of peoples around me. I do not need a construct to send and receive telepathic information. As a matter of fact attempting to make a construct to do these things if you can't do them directly will be an abject failure.

~The Devil's Advocate

[confuded92]

But in some cases you need to send the feeling t TK in a construct .
Exaple: 10 psions in the room. One creates a TK construct without anyone noticing. The constructs knoks down something. Who did it? "Not me!" "Not me!", "Me neither!". They will never figure it out since the construct disapears (since it acoplished its purpose).

[innerfire]

Under that reasoning you could just do outright tk since it's not there afterwards.

If someone can sense that its you doing tk they could probably sense that its you making a construct, not to mention that the construct won't just 'disapear' (energy can neither be created nor destroyed), you'd have to go through some hefty effort to get it to take itself apart to the point where there'd be little trace left. Otherwise the fragments could likely be traced back to the creator.

[The Devil's Advocate]

*raises her hand* I can usually sense when someone is using psi (whatever form) and most uses carry the origional user's signature. Which makes it hard to do unnoticed unless you're actively trying to conceal your signature.

The one thing I WILL mention that I have used constructs for is healing. I cannot sit there and concentrate and concentrate for days on end on a specific thing. But a construct can help and can maintain the work. (credit to Jaci for giving me this idea in a previous discussion on the old forums.) Now warning: This is NOT something to do lightly. Mess with things you do not understand and you can screw them up and make someone worse rather than better.

Note: We're not angry with you, Lost, we're just discussing what is and is not possible, and the difficulties of doing what you suggest.

~The Devil's Advocate

[confuded92]

devilsadvocate said:

Note: We're not angry with you, Lost, we're just discussing what is and is not possible, and the difficulties of doing what you suggest.

~The Devil's Advocate

And why do you think I think or FEEL (Ehem ehem) that you are angry at me? Oh no duh, your an Empath! (I need a new shield...)

Distance does not effect psi, right? And does distance effect sending a feeling? (not a ritorical question)

[The Devil's Advocate]

Distance does not affect ACTIVE psi. Passive 'not trying' psi is affected by distance. If I want to send you a feeling I could do it no matter where you were in the world. If you wanted to randomly pick up an explosion of temper from me while you were in China (for example) it probably wouldn't happen if you weren't on IM with me at the time or otherwise paying attention.

And it had little to do with empathy. Every time we have responded in a similar way to what you post, you have reacted as if we were angry with you, even when we have not said we were.

~The Devil's Advocate

[TC]

innerfire said:

(energy can neither be created nor destroyed)

Wait, hold the phone. Are you saying that you cannot create or destroy energy?

I properly strike flint with steel and create sparks which in turn catch onto something flammable and I have created fire. Therefore, I have created energy. I then take a bucket of water and I splash it onto the flames, dousing it. I have destroyed energy.

I think you mean that /matter/ cannot be created or destroyed. If energy couldn't be created, we would have a limited amount of it used to move. We use energy to do everything, and its created by things both physical (like food) and mental (motivation).

I get the feeling I might have missed something...

[confuded92]

He he, I gust rewieved the law today in science (forgot what its called): when a chemical reaction acurs the mass of the reactants equals to the mass of the product. Matter could not be created nor destroyed. - olny the second part of this statment has to do with this . Anyway, I agree with TC that there was a mistake...

DA, I didnt realy think you got angry on me. I just get depresed to easily. I sometimes want to close myself from the world for many different (sometimes stupid) reasons . I learn a lesson evry time you respond like that . I know I am olny 14 and dont realy think before I say something (or not always think...). Now I do . Thanks.

[TC]

Confuded, about a month and a half ago, you claimed that you were 12. We told you that rules stated you must be 13 or over. You told us that you had just turned 13. Now you are claiming you are 14? This does not makes sense to me.

I'm not trying to pick at you, but you're making it difficult to not comment on these things.

[confuded92]

He he, you totaly mixed me up with somebody ;D . I know who you are speaking of, but not me ;D . You know the guy that posted once i the newbie section about that he could not control his TK powers when he got angry. Also he when first practiced psi wheel made it levitate and fly away and he coukdnt find it!

He he, it wasnt me who sad that i almost turned 13. I was always 14. Proof:
remeber I had a 92 in my nick after the confuded? That is my birthyear, otherwise what is that 92? I was born in July 7, I am not sure if thst visible to you... And i joined the forum like a month ago. So I was never 13 when I joined this forum. Period ;D .

[TC]

That's right, my apologies. It was a member named Mist. Back on topic then...

[confuded92]

Get away without being caught:
Make a shield that hides your psi constructs inside it and doesnt let people sence the constructs or feel them in anyway . Make a TK or empathy construct construct or what ever and mask your sig. Also make your construct do its mision and then fly back into your shield coverege area. Then simply let it do its programing ;D . If its posible that this is going to work (the shield specifecly) then in some case you need a TK construct .

Btw, DA you sad that if you cant do Tk for example your costructs cant. Just want to tell you that you stated this a few times before and i agree to that .

[The Devil's Advocate]

Confuded, I'm not repeating it because you agree with me or to hear myself talk. I'm repeating it because that point seems to get completely lost.

Cloaks hare hard to maintain. You're making this MUCH more complicated than it really is, and you are also getting into combat talk and aplication. It is much easier to do something directly, and in many ways harder to trace if you're good with signatures. Also why would a TK construct be needed to cloak a signature?

~The Devil's Advocate

[TC]

Wow, I'm surprised no one caught this. The statement I made about how energy can be created or destroyed. Yeah, that was wrong. Law of Conservation of Energy states that it is not being created or destroyed, rather it is being transferred. I'm glad I had time to correct myself before people jumped at me for that.

Confuded: Here's a few words of advice. Usually, I'm not the best one to agree with on scientific knowledge. I tend to jump to conclusions before I research. Nothing you did wrong, just for future reference.

[confuded92]

Why is this combat? I am not atacking anyone with my TK construct. Just knocking an object down .

Cloaking a signature for TK construct? If I get it right, so no one could realy trace you .