The Devil's Advocate
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Feb 8, 2008 13:26:55 GMT -5
Post by The Devil's Advocate on Feb 8, 2008 13:26:55 GMT -5
Keep it up. You'll probably find you all get better with practice. Though I recommend making a deck of cards with the symbols, that way they're truly random and it's harder for there to be a pattern that can be predicted. You draw, you project. And just to keep you from getting cocky *gentle tease* it may be they're better at recieving than you are! Oh, and a note on statistics. It takes more than 5 passes to really prove a point. the more times you do it, the more accurately the statistics will start reflecting what's going on. ~The Devil's Advocate
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Feb 8, 2008 18:39:58 GMT -5
Post by Psi-Fi on Feb 8, 2008 18:39:58 GMT -5
Yeah, I guess that could be the case huh? LoL! I won't get cocky though, nothing good comes from it. Yeah, I understand. I just kept it short to keep their attnetion. They aren't really that interested in it like I am so I made it like that to keep their attention and also learn a bit from it.
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Feb 8, 2008 22:16:33 GMT -5
Post by jeg63 on Feb 8, 2008 22:16:33 GMT -5
And just to keep you from getting cocky *gentle tease* it may be they're better at recieving than you are! In my opinion, anybody can receive (provided they have a basic understanding of what is going on; IE: "I'm going to 'send' a 2-digit number to your mind, try to tell me what it is") In my opinion it should be based on the telepathic skill-level and aggressiveness-level of the 'sender.' In my opinion, a super-talented telepath can put that number 'vividly' in the mind of another skilled telepath just as easily as s/he might be able to put it in the mind of a total non-telepathic person, provided that the subject (in both cases) is aware that a 'send' is being attempted.
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Feb 8, 2008 22:26:39 GMT -5
Post by cbad on Feb 8, 2008 22:26:39 GMT -5
And just to keep you from getting cocky *gentle tease* it may be they're better at recieving than you are! In my opinion, anybody can receive (provided they have a basic understanding of what is going on; IE: "I'm going to 'send' a 2-digit number to your mind, try to tell me what it is") In my opinion it should be based on the telepathic skill-level and aggressiveness-level of the 'sender.' In my opinion, a super-talented telepath can put that number 'vividly' in the mind of another skilled telepath just as easily as s/he might be able to put it in the mind of a total non-telepathic person, provided that the subject (in both cases) is aware that a 'send' is being attempted. Okay I think we know it's your opinion On topic however, you are mostly correct as being telepathic or possessing no telepathic experience or skill whatsoever will really play no difference in how well you can project something into someone's mind. What can matter though is that a person trained and practiced in telepathy will probably have built up keener mental sense as well as increased sensitivity so although it may be no easier, they may be able to pick it up better.
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Feb 9, 2008 1:26:52 GMT -5
Post by Psi-Fi on Feb 9, 2008 1:26:52 GMT -5
In my opinion, anybody can receive (provided they have a basic understanding of what is going on; IE: "I'm going to 'send' a 2-digit number to your mind, try to tell me what it is") In my opinion it should be based on the telepathic skill-level and aggressiveness-level of the 'sender.' In my opinion, a super-talented telepath can put that number 'vividly' in the mind of another skilled telepath just as easily as s/he might be able to put it in the mind of a total non-telepathic person, provided that the subject (in both cases) is aware that a 'send' is being attempted. Okay I think we know it's your opinion On topic however, you are mostly correct as being telepathic or possessing no telepathic experience or skill whatsoever will really play no difference in how well you can project something into someone's mind. What can matter though is that a person trained and practiced in telepathy will probably have built up keener mental sense as well as increased sensitivity so although it may be no easier, they may be able to pick it up better. That's why I also did the experiment. To see what the outcome would be between someone who has practiced and someone with no prior knowledge of telepathic sending/recieving. I came up with the same result/opinion as you.
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The Devil's Advocate
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Respected Member I will deflate your theories and claims with ye olde pointy stick of logic.
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Feb 9, 2008 16:14:02 GMT -5
Post by The Devil's Advocate on Feb 9, 2008 16:14:02 GMT -5
I'll toss a few other things in there. I have/had (haven't talked to him in a good long while) a friend who was an empathic brick wall. He 'projected' like a non psion as far as emotion went. That is he HAD emotions and didn't have a shield that was keeping them from flowing out to anyone receptive, but he couldn't recieve worth anything. I know, I sent several full-force projections at him, including one in a blind fury. Wolf can tell you first hand how painful me loosing my temper, including when I loose control of my anti-projection shield, can be. It's not quite as simple as 'everyone has the same base'. Not everyone has the same base. Some people are more or less receptive than others. Some people have natural 'blocks' that others do not. (Natural shields were my only line of defense for um. 16-17ish years so some people can get very thick, complicated defense systems in place without realizing they're there and some of them can be tricky to spot if you don't know waht you're looking for or just see it as 'part of their psionic build'. ) Now I've dealt more with me DOING the projecting than me doing the receiving. What happened when one of my teachers turned out to be a very proficient telepath is a long story that doesn't fit here. Over all you may, very well, be right, but do not discount the myriad of other factors that can play into receptive and projective abilities. Did you scan to see if either of your buddies were 'naturals'? (That is could use psi instinctively rather than having to learn it from the ground up?) ~The Devil's Advocate
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Feb 9, 2008 16:57:55 GMT -5
Post by Psi-Fi on Feb 9, 2008 16:57:55 GMT -5
That's where the myriad of other possibilities would come into play. I'm kind of lacking in the "Scan" department. I think it has to do with the fact that I don't know what to look for or feel when doing so. That's another ability that I need to work on. Shielding as well because if I'm going to be dealing with Telepathy/Empathy, I'm going to need to be able to do so. I can't say that I haven't had time to practice because if that was the case, I wouldn't be posting here so I guess I can start on that today.
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The Devil's Advocate
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Respected Member I will deflate your theories and claims with ye olde pointy stick of logic.
Est autem fides credere quod nondum vides; cuius fidei merces est videre quod credis.
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Feb 10, 2008 4:38:28 GMT -5
Post by The Devil's Advocate on Feb 10, 2008 4:38:28 GMT -5
It takes a while to learn to interpret. (Partly because it's hard to explain exactly what and how things work in scan. Partly because people use different mental 'tag's for the same things. My puzzle box shield has been described as everything from mobile circuitry to the Escher painting with all the stair cases.) It gets more complicated when you get into complex concept programing. You'll learn. Start simple. Start by just trying to pick up relative concentrations of psi in the world around you. It's great practice and doesn't require anyone to double check your work or make constructs for you.
~The Devil's Advocate
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Feb 10, 2008 22:23:19 GMT -5
Post by Psi-Fi on Feb 10, 2008 22:23:19 GMT -5
I will do that, thanks.
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