The Devil's Advocate
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Post by The Devil's Advocate on Jan 8, 2007 6:58:57 GMT -5
I don't want you not to post again. I just want you to THINK before you post. Actually take a good hard look at what you're saying and do some of your OWN research. LOOK at what you are saying. Go look up what kinds of ordinary chemical reactions are going on every day around you. Ask yourself who might and might not have tried what you're thinking about and WHY people might not have. Take 5 or 10 minutes to sit down with a theory that really interests you and write down your thoughts and logic on the matter. (For you I recomend in russian, this isn't something you're going ot be directly sharing in this format.) Go back and re-read them. See what holes you can find that you need to fill in.
Do I normally recomend this? No, but you're tossing out random ideas a hundred at a time, without seeming to have actually /thought/ about any of them. So do what you need to do to make yourself think about how these things MIGHT work. Do you thing some reactions give off psi because some reactions give off light and heat? Why do you think that? What lead you to believe that it might be so, given that psi is NOT electromagnetic radiation?
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Post by ultimarage on Jan 22, 2007 4:13:52 GMT -5
Animals respond to psi, but I have not seen anything to indicate they actually generate it. ~The Devil's Advocate We are animals, are we not? Animals do generate psi. I scanned my cat and sensed psi. I can sense the electromagetic field of the planet, but feel no psi.
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neveza
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Post by neveza on Jan 22, 2007 6:23:45 GMT -5
Animals respond to psi, but I have not seen anything to indicate they actually generate it. ~The Devil's Advocate We are animals, are we not? Animals do generate psi. I scanned my cat and sensed psi. I can sense the electromagetic field of the planet, but feel no psi. Doesn't mean we generate it. It could be attractive to us.
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The Devil's Advocate
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Respected Member I will deflate your theories and claims with ye olde pointy stick of logic.
Est autem fides credere quod nondum vides; cuius fidei merces est videre quod credis.
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Post by The Devil's Advocate on Jan 22, 2007 10:49:02 GMT -5
Point, Neveza. Ultimarage: I have have scanned my general area many times, and there is an 'ambient' psi, but it does not come FROM the earth as far as I can tell (even to a lesser degree than say the oceans come FROM the earth in their current form, though they do permeate into it.) Psi does not seem to permiate many inanimate objects. It does seem to be more concentrated (from MY scans) around living things, more around animal, more around humans, most around psions. These are my observations, I would be greatly interested in yours in a general area scan. ~The Devil's Advocate
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Post by ultimarage on Jan 23, 2007 4:37:13 GMT -5
I agree about the inantimate objects. I seem to be able to sense electricity, and can hear it in certain objects. It's kinda sorta like sensing psi, but not really. I have alot of electronics in my room, so I basically can sense some distant psi, but mostly that weird electronic feeling. Not feeling per-se; but you know what I mean. One time I tried to draw energy from a wall socket and my hand fell asleep.... haha.
I actually found out how open-minded my friend was the other day, but it wasn't too surprising. His psi 'concentration' seemed a little higher than normal people, but not exatly psion-level. He seems interested in becoming a psion. That is good news. Finally; another male with whom I can converse psionics openly with.
Personally, I feel that the nerve clusters that are associated with the chakra of that point generate psi, and it is said that all animals have chakras aswell. That's about as far as my chakra belief goes though.
I actually reached this conclusing during a deep meditative session in which I scanned myself. Around where the chakra centres are suppost to be, I could feel a stronger concentration than around me at those points. The solar plexus seemed to be the strongest.
I can usually tell if a television is on in another room by doing a scan; it's kind of cool, but ultimately serves no purpose, hehe.
I'm glad I returned to the community. I'm surprised the psipog forums are still up aswell.
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The Devil's Advocate
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Respected Member I will deflate your theories and claims with ye olde pointy stick of logic.
Est autem fides credere quod nondum vides; cuius fidei merces est videre quod credis.
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Post by The Devil's Advocate on Jan 23, 2007 6:40:04 GMT -5
Have you tried an active scan of an area? (It wasn't clear if you were talking general passive awareness or an active scan.)
Though question? What does the nerve cluster section have to do with it. (I am assuming the friend thing is an asside.) The Psipog forums are up, but as an archive only, if I understand correctly.
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Post by ultimarage on Jan 23, 2007 17:22:44 GMT -5
Well, the psipog forums close on the 25th. It was more passive than active, I'd say. I wasn't focused enough for a dedicated active scan at that moment.... hehehe.
I just believe that those nerve clusters are what generate psi, basically.
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The Devil's Advocate
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Respected Member I will deflate your theories and claims with ye olde pointy stick of logic.
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Post by The Devil's Advocate on Jan 23, 2007 23:10:14 GMT -5
Nerve Clusters: I'm skeptical on that, or we'd be able to chart Psi by tracking the nerve clusters... And there would be NO ambient psi, which there is. Scanning: Would you please do an ACTIVE scan of an area and tell me what you find. ~The Devil's Advocate
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Post by ultimarage on Jan 24, 2007 1:26:46 GMT -5
Welp; during an active scan, my parents in the other room are what I can feel the most. I can feel the electricity aswell, the house's electricity in the wiring more dominantly than the computer, and my lil' kitty. It seems that I can also sense the connection from my wireless router to the computer in the dining room... weird. Objects are like voids, basically, to me.
I wasn't saying that psi was anchored to those points, I simply said that I think that is what generates psi within us. The ambient psi most likely is stray thoughts and emotions, using the psi generated, by our sub-c.
That's not true that we'd be able to chart psi necessarily, since like I said I think they just generate the psi. Those are your own speculations. Maybe the psi-generation itself spreads out the ambient psi, you know the actual action?
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neveza
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Post by neveza on Jan 24, 2007 3:13:56 GMT -5
Ultimarage, You sure you're not frontloading? Basically, false results from over active mind, for what I've gathered of the word. I mean, I'm skeptical of your feeling of electrcity.
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The Devil's Advocate
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Respected Member I will deflate your theories and claims with ye olde pointy stick of logic.
Est autem fides credere quod nondum vides; cuius fidei merces est videre quod credis.
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Post by The Devil's Advocate on Jan 24, 2007 6:55:06 GMT -5
That doesn't explain how middle-of-the-desert and no where Arizona scanns with the same base ambient Psi as the middle of a large military base, it just has fewer 'pooling' spots like plants, animals, and people. I don't sense electricity so overpoweringly. Try this to test the electricty thing. Next time you are in an unfmailiar place, scann it and see what you get, and see if you can 'feel' the electrical paths that you were previously unaware of. Neveza more common term for that here: Analytical Overlay, also known as 'AOL". ~The Devil's Advocate
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Post by ultimarage on Jan 24, 2007 21:33:20 GMT -5
Alright; I'll start making it a habit of doing active scans of unfamiliar areas and just areas I've never scanned before.
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The Devil's Advocate
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Respected Member I will deflate your theories and claims with ye olde pointy stick of logic.
Est autem fides credere quod nondum vides; cuius fidei merces est videre quod credis.
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Post by The Devil's Advocate on Jan 24, 2007 23:24:26 GMT -5
*chuckles* I made that habbit a LONG time ago. I didn't mean to make it sound like a demand. I'm just honestly interested in comparing scanns and perspectives. The more data we have, even subjective, the more accurate what we piece together is likely to be. Definitely, thanks for the input. ~The Devil's Advocate
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Post by ultimarage on Jan 25, 2007 2:31:22 GMT -5
It's cool; I am always looking for ways to apply my psionic practices to any situation. I have trouble with that.
Is that AOL term a term used to explain the sensing of electricity? Can you sense it too?
On a side note - Even if it's abit off-topic, it seems I've been a natural Empath for most, if not all, my life. Will this make it easier for me to learn telepathy? Sorry, I just wanted to hear your opinion.
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Post by jaci on Jan 25, 2007 6:23:15 GMT -5
AOL stands for analytic overlay and is what neveza was refering to in the post above DA's. There's a good article about it here: < upconline.net/articles.php?a=99 > if you wanted some more information about it. I don't think it'll necisarily make it easier to learn tp, but try it and see what happens.
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