Psi Flare

[salemdaykor]

A Psi flare, as we can all agree, is a rare and amazing occurrence that so far has hardly been researched and looked into as it should be. But, now, with the help of basic and advanced physics, I have come up with two theories for this occurrence.

My first theory is based of the assumption that Psi has an electrical propriety, however minute. Now, when a Psi ball is made, energy is either taken from the air or from the body and placed into the center. Once energy is put into this center the natural flow of energy is to go with the flow unless otherwise directed. Therefor the energy will to to find a way in, making move around the center trying to find an opening.

When a electrical current begins to move magnetism occurs, and since the energy is a free flowing energy (Meaning the poles are not constant). The magnetism that the current makes flows with the current. Now, when magnetism rotates around a central point it Ionizes the air (Changes it to a negative or positive charge). Once air within the central sphere is totally Ionized, something amazing happens... Plasma forms! Unfortunately the reason plasma is hard to maintain and Psi flares only last a little while, is plasma is hard to maintain because Ionized air loses it's charge when the air around it comes into the sphere. But in shot the light you see when a flare appears is low voltage plasma. ^^

2nd one will be in my next post. But, tell me what you think of this one. Poke as many holes in it as you can! ^^ Thanks!

[TC]

I like how you thought your theory out more carefully than some I've seen. One thing I did notice was just that your theory is using a bit of a giant leap. After all, a theory is an assertion made by taking the results of several experiments. Otherwise, it can't really be a theory, so to speak. Otherwise, you could consider it an educated guess. Unless you've been doing experiments and collecting tangible data, it really can't be a theory.

But enough of the lingo, because a lot of theory in psionics are educated guesses. I'm just rambling about unimportant things. One more thing. You were talking about psi being related to electrical energy. I recall this site having several discussions on whether psi has any relation to electrical energy. I believe in most of them, we came up with the verdict that psi doesn't have anything to do with electrical energy, as far as our experiments could take it. However, since we have no instruments that give us any molecular/atomic details on psi energy, we can't really say one way or the other, so your guess is probably as logical as ours.

However, you lost me on the last few parts. I'm going to let the others see if they can either praise this "theory" or pick at it. Otherwise, it seems as if you thought this theory out well before actually posting it here. Good work!

[wolfdancer]

" Once air within the central sphere is totally Ionized, something amazing happens... Plasma forms!"

Could you go into a little more detail on the above part of your hypothesis?

~Wolf

[Requisite]

Perhaps flaring is simply creating photons? It isn't energy, it's a light form of kinesis? Perhaps this track isn't so far off. Saying that psi has a physical/electrical component doesn't seem to line up with the fact that all scientific studies, and they are numerous, show that psi in not affected by time, distance, dirt, faraday cages, etc.

[Stony1205]

Law of conservation of matter: You can't create or destroy matter.

Kinesis is the moving of matter on either a macro or micro scale. You do not create anything.

~ Stony

[Requisite]

I remember speaking to a physicist who was saying that, while that law works for "potatoes in a bucket", it isn't true for things like photons. Perhaps it is simply moving the photons that pop in and out of existance? I don't know much about physics, but I do remember clearly what he said to me. Perhaps its better to say that it is "activating" a photon? Again, I don't know much about physics.

[innerfire]

Its a misunderstanding of physics. Photons can be created because something lost energy. Remember E=mc^2. So its still conservation of energy and mass, because while the second was "created" the first was removed.

[salemdaykor]

wolfdancer: Well, plasma is just ionized air, that has changed from a gas to plasma. Just as water when heated turns into a Gas, air when ionozed changes into a plasma. And ionization is when air is charged either positivly or negativly. (Diffrent typs of plasma) Anyways, mst kinds of plasma is visual, but others still are beyond our spectrum and can not be seen by our eyes. (I think I went off of your question >.> sorry.)

TC: Thank you for the compliment ^^, I appriciate the notice. Anyways, I know that last part my be confusing because of the way I worded it. But it is slightly advanced physics when you get into rotating magnite systems. If you have any questions at which I can elaberate on, I would be more than happy.

[The Devil's Advocate]

We know what Plasma is; however, in the case of flaring, I am inclined to believe that it is much less plasma and much more simply emission of light from psionically excited air particles. Plasma is a VERY high energy state and typically comes with a corespondingly high heat state. Given the proximity of most people's hands to flared psiballs, if it was plasma we'd have alot more very painful injuries resulting from flaring than have occurred. (I'm not aware of anyone who has ever been burned by a psiball.)

Plasma itself is actually, usually viewed as a state of matter. (Such as solid, liquid, or gass.) The energy state is so high that actually dealing with too much of it is puinful or destructive. (Candles can burn down houses... Psiballs never have.)

~The Devil's Advocate

[salemdaykor]

But there are different types of Plasma, just are there are different types of gases. (BTW: Thank you for saying state of matter. I couldn't for the life of me think of that word) Anyways, The plasma we would be dealing with would be less heated plasma, and would emit it's energy through light emission rather than through heat. Which it does give off some heat because have we all not described a Psi ball as being warm to the skin?

And even if it were Psionicly excited particles how would that emit light? That would give off heat, because is heat not merely the energy from agitated particles?(Not sure how to word that... but I think you get my point)

[The Devil's Advocate]

Plasma: NASA's "All audience" explaination of plasma. "Cool" plasma is still hot enough to burn. The individual particles in the ionosphere are enormously hot. There are several questions linked at the bottom that might also be more useful. Short version: Plasma is hot. Unless it STAYS hot (on a particle by particle level) it reverts to other more 'standard' states of matter.
www-spof.gsfc.nasa.gov/Education/wplasma.html

Edited to add: Some rough figures from a friend in the 'things that are hot, burn, or explode' field: "One pound of matter in a one foot sphere in the plasma state would, (if all supporting energy were pulled at this point) still be sufficient to incinerate a human being at 100 yards. "

We have also noted psiballs being COLD to the skin as consistently as hot, and for me there is no temperature gradient, simply a resistance. All my psiballs, unless specifically told otherwise are the same temperature, perceptually, as the surrounding air. I rarely feel a temperature difference with constructs, even those I did not create. It is an entirely different 'feel' from a thermocline or thermal gradient.

Heat is a specific KIND of energy given off from agitated particles. It is in relation to how fast the entire particle is moving. Electromagnetic radiation (visual spectrum especially) is typically given off due to the shift of electrons between their valence shells. If the electron has absorbed the majority of the energy from a given source and shifts 'up' an energy layer (changed its quantum number). It will RELEASE that energy as colored light as it 'falls back' to its equilibrium state. Each element gives off light in a specific pattern, this is how a mass spectrometer works. The light released from these shifts is consistent and is indicative of the atom and structure producing it. Heat is not necessarily produced on any perceptible level.

This is also why breaking certain crystal latices causes a spark of light when the bonds are broken. The electrons 'fall back' into their new equilibrium, and release that extra energy as light.

~The Devil's Advocate

[wolfdancer]

We have also noted psiballs being COLD to the skin as consistently as hot, and for me there is no temperature gradient, simply a resistance. All my psiballs, unless specifically told otherwise are the same temperature, perceptually, as the surrounding air. I rarely feel a temperature difference with constructs, even those I did not create. It is an entirely different 'feel' from a thermocline or thermal gradient."

Thank you I was just about to reply with that when I got to that portion of your post.

Thank you also for the

Heat is a specific KIND of energy given off from agitated particles. It is in relation to how fast the entire particle is moving. Electromagnetic radiation (visual spectrum especially) is typically given off due to the shift of electrons between their valence shells. If the electron has absorbed the majority of the energy from a given source and shifts 'up' an energy layer (changed its quantum number). It will RELEASE that energy as colored light as it 'falls back' to its equilibrium state. Each element gives off light in a specific pattern, this is how a mass spectrometer works. The light released from these shifts is consistent and is indicative of the atom and structure producing it. Heat is not necessarily produced on any perceptible level.

section. Very useful. I had forgotten that portion of my science classes. So basically your saying that the heat energy of plasma would not necessarily (or maybe would have little chance of) creating a visible area of colored light?

~Wolf

[salemdaykor]

COngratulations, you have broken my theory. I need to do a little more research beofre coming back to this. And thanks to your comment I will be researching into quantum physics. I have only been looking into the Psychics of rotating magnite systems, and not into quantum physics. Because that is where I believed the answered would most lkikely fall into. Thanks for the comments ^^, and if anyone has some theories I can help look into I would be glad to help. Thanks!

[The Devil's Advocate]

Wolf: Plasma is energetic enough that it usually gives off visible light (since the electrons are being stripped away completely which usually also releases light.) What I'm saying is that, if the reaction was plasma and it created enough light to be visible the way a flared psiball is visible, it would be doing physical damage to the psion who created the psiball. And if a psiball was non-visible plasma it would be doing really nasty damage... really, really nasty damage. Shields? Especially with the density I have mine at? Oy, would I be a crispy critter!

Salem: unfortunately at our level of research you can't avoid having to research into EVERY area, at least for a basic grounding. Or you miss something important. *grins* annoying and time consuming but true. You might look into radioactivity as well... specifically the phenominon called 'tunneling'.

~The Devil's Advocate

[salemdaykor]

Lol, well I have nothing but time ^^. You may be suprised by the amount of research I have done, espically on this subject. But unfortunatly not enough. Then again thats the reason I put it on here ^^ To get it shot down.

And I will definatly look into what you suggested.